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Why You Should Own Bitcoin, Not Monero

https://blossom.primal.net/1ce7286744327baa2ee68dccaf6d972a9b0b939e2c36aa075dbf24473a1974cf.mp4

Farley | Hard Fork Anthems 4mo ago 💬 8

Matt does a fantastic job explaining, however that doesn’t prevent me from adding my two cents. 😏

BITCOIN VS. MONERO: THE PRIVACY WAR YOU'RE BEING LIED TO ABOUT

(Spoiler: Monero Is a Crutch for Paranoid Drug Dealers—Bitcoin Is Private Enough for Free Men.)

BITCOIN'S PRIVACY IS BETTER THAN YOU THINK

✅ Lightning Network:

- Private, off-chain transactions (no public ledger).

- Routing obfuscation (like Tor for money).

✅ On-Chain Noise:

- Millions of new addresses daily = herd anonymity.

- CoinJoin, PayJoin, Whirlpool = built-in mixing.

✅ Future Upgrades:

- Schnorr/Taproot = smarter privacy.

- Silent Payments = stealth addresses (coming soon).

Monero’s "privacy" is just a crutch for people who don’t understand Bitcoin’s tools.

💀 WHY MONERO IS A DEAD END

🚩 1. No Real Adoption

- Used mostly by criminals & degenerates (Dark Web exit-scammers).

- Zero institutional interest (because it’s useless for real commerce).

🚩 2. Centralized Development

- Anonymous devs (Sketchy as hell—who controls the code?).

- No auditability (If a bug exists, you won’t know until it’s exploited).

🚩 3. No Scalability

- Slow, bloated blockchain (Monero nodes are dying from bloat).

- No Lightning equivalent (Stuck in 2017 tech).

Monero is a niche toy for paranoid nerds—Bitcoin is private enough for the real world.

MEME THE DELUSION

🎨 Image: A Monero fanboy in a tinfoil hat whispering to a dark alley, while a Bitcoin maxi buys coffee via Lightning, smirking.

📜 Caption:

"‘But… but… muh privacy!’

‘Cool story. My LN invoice expired.’"

BITCOIN’S PRIVACY FUTURE

1. More Lightning Adoption → Private by default.

2. Better On-Chain Tools (CoinJoin++, Silent Payments).

3. Herd Anonymity → Billions of addresses = you disappear in the crowd.

Monero’s fate?

- Banned globally (regulators hate it).

- Replaced by Bitcoin’s privacy upgrades.

- Forgotten like a bad altcoin.

FINAL TRUTH

MONERO IS FOR PEOPLE WHO DON’T TRUST BITCOIN.

BITCOIN IS FOR PEOPLE WHO DON’T TRUST ANYONE.

PRIVACY ISN’T ABOUT HIDING—

IT’S ABOUT NOT NEEDING TO.

STACK SATS.

USE LIGHTNING.

LAUGH AT MONERO BAGGERS.

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Saberhagen The Nameless 4mo ago

Even Moneros privacy isn't perfect atm, but you're trying to convince us that a completely transparent blockchain that reveals sender, amount, and receiving address is "good enough"?

Lightning would be arguable if it weren't for the fact that it's best case scenario privacy is out of reach from your average user. Apparent from 90%+ using custodians which can see everything they do.

All the criticisms about Monero you displayed have nothing to do with privacy (the whole topic of your post)

Anonymity is an asymmetric advantage against the state (the main enemy of Bitcoin) privacy further bolsters that anonymity

White market Bitcoin transactions are non-starters since all white market transactions are completely and arbitrarily dictated by a central authority.

Zero knowledge privacy tech or go home

Farley | Hard Fork Anthems 4mo ago

Monero’s ‘privacy’ leaks through:

· Exchange off-ramps (KYC bottlenecks)

· Network-level snooping (Timing/volume correlations)

· State-level attacks (Chainalysis++ coming for XMR next)*

Bitcoin’s transparency is its armor:

· You choose when to reveal (CoinJoin, Lightning, P2P)

· No ‘privacy tax’ (XMR’s 30% slower verification)

· The state fights adoption—not the protocol itself**

Final Truth:

‘Privacy’ without unstoppability is just hide-and-seek with permission."

Saberhagen The Nameless 4mo ago 💬 1

KYC exchanges you say? Monero is delisted or not supported on most of them so how do you get it from those non-existent KYC exchanges? And wouldn't that apply tenfold to KYC Bitcoin?

And for the few exchanges left that offer Monero once you withdraw it's like taking cash from the ATM. They don't know what happens after that. Can't say the same for Bitcoin.

Network level snooping is not unique to Monero. Every cryptocurrency deals with that. In fact, Monero provides more protection by default because of Dandelion. Many of the major wallets have Tor built in like Cake, Stack, and Feather.

You're telling me Chainalysis has an easier time trying to trace Monero vs Bitcoin? 😂

No, with Bitcoin you reveal everything by default then opt into privacy. Monero is the opposite.

What about the "transparency tax"? (all the extra effort required to hide your transactions so almost no users do)

White market Bitcoin transactions are permissioned by definition hate to break it to you. Unstoppable only applies to the black market.

Farley | Hard Fork Anthems 4mo ago

Use Monero. Your choice. Live with them.

Farley | Hard Fork Anthems 4mo ago

Monero is cash from a KYC ATM that still logs your face.

Bitcoin is learning to become the ATM—without the camera.

Choose your delusion.

I’ll be over here building exit ramps.

Saberhagen The Nameless 4mo ago

You can buy both Monero and Bitcoin with KYC. This is a stupid dichotomy. In fact you're more likely to get Bitcoin KYC because it's on eveyr exchange and not mass delisted like Monero.

Saberhagen The Nameless 4mo ago

I'll use whatever tool brings me to my goals

Farley | Hard Fork Anthems 4mo ago

As you should.