Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerburg, and Bill Gates VC is behind #SimpleX? ๐Ÿ˜… are we sure about the direction this is headed?

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Do you have a link to confirm this? ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿซก

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/simplex-chat

Village Global is their only investor listed

Thank you! ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿซก๐Ÿซ‚

Just for posterity, here is the link to VCโ€™s site! ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿซก

https://www.villageglobal.vc

Thank you! So what do you think?

All this things usually start innocent, but we never know where it may lead. Since it is open source, I am less concerned. ๐Ÿถ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿซก

But it does make me wonder even more about the app name ๐Ÿ˜…

lol hmmโ€ฆ hopefully nothing world-domination-y ๐Ÿคฃ

It was confirmed by esp himself ๐Ÿ‘

It's fully open source and anyone can run their own server, it's legit.

what if you aren't running your own server? I just downloaded the app

The default servers are all through Tor which also gives good privacy assurances.

You can use my server, many Nostriches are on it

smp://QkpDEFx-YSXMDQQ4N-9D7MPo5D1uglgY4aVFvRw5Zzo=@smp.utxo.one

Thanks that's very generous.

Is it wise to join just anyone's server or should one use discretion?

What are the risks?

I have a knowledge gap here! Thank you!

Iโ€™d love to know more about this as well ๐Ÿ‘€

I don't know enough to say for sure, but as far as I can tell servers can't see your messages or metadata even if they tried, that said I only use servers from other Nostriches, nostr:npub1y3uh89v5a4vq92t8q0j6su94zhvcdxpywjn3l6hpsr5welarqtrqj7yzhd runs one too which I use

Frfr?

Source?

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/simplex-chat

Village Global is their only investor

link to villageglobal:

https://www.villageglobal.vc

Iโ€™m surprised this is coming out now I wouldโ€™ve thought they would say when making the product

bad PR for the due to complete lack of alignment in goals on the user and the funding side

apologies for the shocking grammar, kept on rephrasing it to get my point across better

Nobody noticed but you ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿซ‚๐Ÿ’œ

iโ€™m big on bettering my grammar and increasing my vocabulary, as it helps me describe my thoughts in more detail ๐Ÿ’œ

so iโ€™m kinda tough on myself with that ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿซ‚

Me too. All good my friend. As long as itโ€™s constructive ๐Ÿšง

i overwhelm myself quite a lot with that, so the โ€œgood enoughโ€ part is something iโ€™m still constantly learning to acknowledge ๐Ÿ’œ

Itโ€™s part of the process, embrace it ๐Ÿซ‚๐Ÿ’œ

๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ‘

๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ I thought it was perfectly worded

yโ€™all are too kind, just let me be tough on myself and have high standards, will you? ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ’œ

Canโ€™t do that mate

ok

i promise

๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ not even lying I had multiple customers tell me this only for them to keep on doing this

i would never ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ‘€

Oh you right ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ the most trustworthy place there is

congratulations ser ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ˜‚

๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿซ‚

๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

Is English your first language?

most definitely not, surprised that people havenโ€™t picked up on that already ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ’œ

Haha.. Oh what a winner..

But I was sure it was..

So it's not my English others do make a mess as well.. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ’•

๐ŸคฒSemble dominante alors qu'il devrait pas l'รชtre compte des +8 millards d'invidus sur cรฉtte๐ŸŒŽ

๐Ÿค” evilcorp it seems

Such ecorp vibes! Good one!

We even have our own Mr E here ๐Ÿ˜…

Which one is your Mr. E?

the one and only, Will and Vanessaโ€™s kid

perfect arc

I've learned they are a 'lending partner' aka no operational control

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itโ€™s open-source code where you can verify what youโ€™re using so i donโ€™t think it really matters

Whoโ€™s going to verify it though? Do you really trust those ppl have good intentions?

Trail of bits completed a full code audit last year. Malicious or just poor code can still get added in after that but one would hope that security focussed maintainers would have their eye on this sort of thing.

I was just reading about a few different cases where crypto projects got audited and they still got hacked.

It's impossible to guarantee security. It's possible that the audits were shoddy, that the devs added malicious code intentionally or unintentionally post audit or that there was just some new exploit.

Ultimately the money invested from the glowing sources paid for a fairly reputable firm to audit the code but secure comms is always going to be a target.

Of all ppl that couldโ€™ve invested, those are some of the most sus possible. Maybe theyโ€™re just being good guys but come on lol.

XMPP is open source code, with open standards and many implementations... And decades track record

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WTF?

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I can't see anything

Same here

Neither can I ๐Ÿค”

Gif isnโ€™t loading ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿป

Even primal canโ€™t open it ๐Ÿ˜ข๐ŸŽป

Iโ€™ll try again ๐Ÿ˜‚

This one is interesting.

https://litprotocol.com/

never heard of this ๐Ÿค”

One of my favorites

The gif is โ€œperfect down to last minute detailsโ€

I keep an open mind until proven that itโ€™s time to pivot.

n July 2022 SimpleX Chat raised a pre-seed funding from the VC fund Village Global - its co-founder Ben Casnocha was very excited about our vision of privacy-first fully decentralized messaging and community platform, both for the individual users and for the companies, independent of any crypto-currencies, that might grow to replace large centralized platforms, such as WhatsApp, Telegram and Signal.

https://simplex.chat/blog/20230422-simplex-chat-vision-funding-v5-videos-files-passcode.html

Village Global is here:

https://www.villageglobal.vc/

C'est terrible ces financeurs qu'on devrait leur motivation...c'est co/me l'a ruรฉe vers l'or ave# maรฎtres du nouveau Monde

The Arcade Labs dev did tell me he doesnt like SimpleX chat implementation so is building his own end-2-end encrypted group chat app. Not sure what he meant by that.

NIP-112

Well Jack promotes it!

and look what happened to twitter - not really a good track record lol!

James, Jack has said multiple times that he has many regrets over Twitter ect

Iโ€™m not in his corner by any means, I am just watching from the sidelines however I feel everyone deserves a 2nd chance so letโ€™s see.

I was trying to be a bit tongue in cheek ๐Ÿ˜‰

However, if he learns from his mistakes then that's great.

In regards to simpleX I'll wait, like you!

For private convos I tend to use xmpp.

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Iโ€™m still waiting from them to answer that ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”

nostr:npub1rjwumr7j6tac08t0qttvc44walt549nc4eyyxjc0phn6yxzj7uzq0accc9 Did they answer you?