Interesting thoughts in this thread but imo it includes some critical misunderstandings.
1) nostr is a protocol, not a platform. This is important as it changes how UX(D) works. It changes how social-behavioral patterns emerge, because it’s different things to different people. It looks and works differently based on what client you use.
2) V4V doesn’t propose an artist can live off art posted on something which is in its early beginnings with 40k active weekly users. Especially arts, music etc. follow a power law. As a result network effects need to be much much bigger for this to work. The general assumption of V4V holds true though. Users not only zap contents they like but they zap people too. Albeit for different reasons, sometimes just to zap for the zaps sake.
3) it’s not that traditional social media platforms design UX to trigger stronger dopaminergic reactions. It’s more like people do it themselves, platforms recognize the patterns and build on top of that them to capitalize on it. They artificially enhance a natural bad pattern so to say. Nostr will be a dopaminergic experience or it will die out due to utter boredom. The challenge is not to suppress this but to make it meaningful and balanced.
I agree that we need to talk about the clients and not reference the protocol.
2) I’m curious how you define V4V? When we talked to Nostr users in January the thing they all agreed on was the need for more diverse content. What is the incentive for Creators and Journalists to come to Nostr if they can’t get paid for their work? Maybe not fully make a living but at least cover equipment costs.
3) At this point I think the ux is fully optimized for engagement and dopamine hits. Even in the programs Nos is running we are finding that a subset of people feel the need to make Bitcoin or Nostr related content so they fit in. This is instead of the content they applied to the program with. I would argue that by implementing the corporate social ux patterns the clients on Nostr are reinforcing the dopamine effect. At the same time we need to enhance discovery of other types of content - especially for those who are excited about the tech but aren’t interested in building it.
To this end Nos launched a replacement for reply counts on the main feed last week. In part bc it’s too process intense to do the counts while generating the feed. It’s the first of many experiments to move away from infinite scroll and update the experience of viewing content on Nostr.
I find myself writing more about Nostr and Bitcoin than I naturally would. I'm actually primarily interested in other topics, like philosophy and literature.
Feels like being sucked into the Borg.
Thought I was the only one. 🤔
Only a few topics get reposted, so you have to write about them or you are left talking to yourself.
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I still do my thing but that might be minuscule autism
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On 2) V4V to me means monetary value for non-monetary value. I understand that people want to monetize but incentive-wise there is a clear progression that usually takes place: niche -> reach -> monetization. Sorry to say but it’s not supposed to pay that much at this point. The positive about it: opportunity to build a very consistent, engaged, coherent fan base.
On 3) I agree. Nostr is still very niche. Luckily bitcoin as niche connects to many other topics and sub cultures. I’m certain there is opportunity. It’s not as bleak as it might currently seem.
The other driver is not so much content doscovery of passive users but modes of content creation and delivery for active users. What have Twitter, YouTube, instagram momentum was at least in equal parts the playfulness of new ways of self expression. Maybe that’s the even bigger potential for nostr.
I know a very generic answer but I’m bullish on nostr
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