Exactly! Been here 3 years and every time I meet long time bitcoiners at events here (and around the world) that don't use LN I'm very saddened. Some very famous names included.

It's weird, I pay my bills in LN even but somehow the 'nobody uses it' meme lives on.

(P.S. I don't call myself a maximalist and most of the people I'm referring to wouldn't either, but that's beside the point.)