You can still screenshot those you want to hold accountable 🤷🏼♂️ 
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there is no delete in the internet.
there is no delete on any social media. only, "don't show this to my followers". X and Facebook still have all of the data. It is a perception of deletion.
there is no delete in nostr. i can rebroadcast all of the notes of people I follow to a private relay that doesn't accept edits/delete events types.
at best, you're catering to people's conditioning and making them feel 'at home'.
at worst you're deceiving people into believing they can fully remove their posts.
further, screenshots are hard to prove the pubkey posted said note; screenshots can be manipulated and photoshopped. nostr events being cryptographically signed is a significantly more honest proof of post.
there is no delete in the internet.
You lost the average user.
Yes, people should know there is no true delete, but just a feed preference. It’s a simple tool that people should have the right to if they want. Saying “I do or don’t want this on my home feed”
I agree with you that it should 💯 be a feed preference. most features in my opinion should be readily available and all use a toggle to include or exclude at the users discretion.
I think where we fundamentally disagree is that I believe deletion means a specific action of permanent removal; it cannot be retrieved. it is probably just a semantics issue I have, but I feel like more harm could come from people misunderstanding "delete", rather than knowing they cannot.
I'm not sure how this feature will be reconciled in the future, but these nostr devs continue to improve, and upgrade this experience, so I'm not too concerned.
We have to stop being like “this in the Wild West wake up,” and people should feel at home in their social media of choice
Blocking, too. Not just muting.
Just mute. It works. And works well. For fuck sake, Nostr is soft as baby poop now.
Sure there are awful people & accounts. Mute them. Notify your followers to mute to.
I hate the porn shit & mute all of those accounts instantly. I also can sense a troll pretty quickly. Muted.
No zaps set up- muted.
How do you notify followers to mute?
Also, define troll?
Oh wait no, the best one is Bill Gates refusing to cooperate during his antitrust deposition:
Boies: What non-Microsoft browsers were you concerned about in January of 1996?
Gates: I don’t know what you mean “concerned.”
Boies: What is it about the word “concerned” that you don’t understand?
Gates: I’m not sure what you mean by it.
Boies: Is—
Gates: Is there a document where I use that term?
Boies: Is the term “concerned” a term that you’re familiar with in the English language?
Gates: Yes.
Boies: Does it have a meaning that you’re familiar with?
Gates: Yes.
Cmon. If our message to newbies is “grow a pair and use mute” they’re just not going to come.
We’re clearly seeing that
This is where we differ. I don’t care about newbies at all. Not one iota. Fuck them if they can’t figure out what I did.
Fuck them all. Stay on Reddit.
Get the fuck outta my house.
Yup. Nostr doesn't need you, but you might need nostr.
That said, clients can certainly choose to implement algorithms that do a ton of filtering and provide a Facebook like experience for those that want it. That's the whole beauty of it.
I can edit and block a note on Amethyst.....
Wish I could mute.
Cringe feminine post. "Remember ladies, plenty of men are simps and will bite their tongue if we threaten ostracization."
Don't be a pussy. Mute people if you can't handle words that you disagree with. Mute me.
Amethyst has edit and delete, but it's essentially meaningless until all major clients support it.
Why go mainstream...isn't mainstream what we escaped from???
and edit/delete....
hmmm....
Politicians would really, really benefit from that.
Ima gonna go and SMH for a little while...
brb...