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Wabisabi part 2

And change is remixed for free...in the same way that the receiver if using wasabi remixes for free if you receive mixed funds 🤯

And samourai with post mix tools to be used by noobs.....

One way or another we should all adopt this model of Wabisabi either using their coordinator or using our coordinators.

This has been my timeline with using Coinjon implementations.

Joinmakert > Wasabi > Whirpool > Joinmarket > Wabisabi

I had honestly lost faith in the development of coinjoin tools because of the difficulty for the average user that prevents its adoption and secondly because of how tedious it is to live as a secret agent constantly worrying about mixing, changes, post mix tools and other vanalities.

Wasabi 2.0 solves all these problems, I'm sorry I didn't waste the time to study the new tool before because of my prejudices.

Great job guys.

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bitcoinjiujitsu 2y ago

Need to study this.

+boldmouse096⚡️ 2y ago

Well, I'm retarded moron (so don't trust me at all) with no extra linux skills running my own core/Fulcrum, dojo + whirlpool 🌀, mempool.

First study the link below and DYR 👇

Sounds to me like asking for approval which of your utxos can be conjoined.

third party = CA ?

zkSNACKs Ltd. may execute illicit activity checking and control via a contracted third party solely in its CoinJoin coordination services. zkSNACKs Ltd. may suspend your UTXOs’ access to the CoinJoin services, with immediate effect for any reason - including but not limited to illicit or prohibited activities, applicable sanctions programs, or any crime or money-laundering activity - at its sole discretion and is under no obligation to disclose the details of its decision to take such action with you. In this case you are not permitted to use the relevant/high-risk bitcoin UTXO to reach the CoinJoin services.

You acknowledge that zkSNACKs Ltd.'s decision to take certain actions, including suspending for any reason at our sole discretion, may be based on confidential criteria that are essential to zkSNACKs Ltd.'s risk management and security protocols. You agree that zkSNACKs Ltd. is under no obligation to disclose the details of its risk management and security procedures to you.

Your access with the relevant bitcoin UTXOs to the CoinJoin services will be permanently suspended.

https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/blob/master/WalletWasabi/Legal/Assets/LegalDocumentsWw2.txt

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Cyph3rp9nk 2y ago

I speak from the technical side. We can all set up a wabisabi coordinator with btcpayserver with our own rules, so there is no excuse.

I am not going to get into this ridiculous war.

Max 2y ago

This is the way.

Kevin Ravens₿erg ⚡️ ☁️ 2y ago

My (just launched) Coinjoin coordinator should be running.

Kortik 🇦🇲 2y ago

So lol 😂 you are going to mix with yourself? Running your own coordinator is useless. You want to be in the biggest pool and not be singled out. The bigger the pool the easier it’s to hide in it. This wasabi gimmick addressed to plebs who doesn’t know shit and is not working. Sparrow wallet for example a different client but uses same whirlpool coordinator to stay in the biggest pool possible and soon decentralized coordinator. So by choosing your own coordinator you are not solving anything you in fact ruined your own anonymity.

JCB 2y ago

Yes, SPARROW FTW

Kevin Ravens₿erg ⚡️ ☁️ 2y ago

I’ll be inviting some friends for the first coinjoin round 😉

JCB 2y ago

How hard would that be? How can you attract the crowd to enhance your anonymity set?.. The drama is too much for me too… Willing to learn.. I also know and like people on both Wasabi and Whirlpool but the drama is tiresome and ineffective. MAybe a nostr “group” to create wasabi coordinators?

Max 2y ago

Yeah, the UX of arbitrary amount coinjoins is so much better, it just works with any amount, so you don't have to worry about pre and post coinjoin, just do it.

And this is also what enables payments in coinjoin, which is yet another 10x privacy improvement!

Max 2y ago

Again, I appreciate you taking a look, despite having concerns about the people who build and run it.

That shows good intention and faith, and I hope we did not disappoint.

If you see any way to improve the tech, please don't hesitate to suggest.

Cyph3rp9nk 2y ago

I understand that payments through coinjoin at this time are not yet possible with wasabi no?

I see that btcpay server is possible.

Max 2y ago

Correct.

#[7], that savage, is making better privacy tech than Wasabi...

Wasabi will catch up though.

This shows yet another benefit of arbitrary amount coinjoins. The coordinator and it's API is super simple, all the complexity and choice is client side. And because anyone can build a client compatible with the WabiSabi API without permission, we'll hopefully see a flourishing of different approaches.

Let the best client win.

Cyph3rp9nk 2y ago

Personally I feel more comfortable with wasabi because I prefer not to have the wallet always connected like in BTCPay, I think it would be great if you guys could add the feature to pay via coinjoin 🙂.

Max 2y ago

Soon, in two weeks :)

kukks 2y ago

You can also host btcpay on a local, private server 😉

Technomancer 2y ago

Followed