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2) young and beautiful doesn't mean "high status"

3) there is more to women than looks

5) women are grateful when you treat them well, to believe otherwise makes you abusive and wretched man. also, women initiate divorce more because most men aren't capable of the commitment marriage requires (and typically too lazy to file the paperwork).

7) transactional dynamics and expectations will doom a marriage

8) demonstrates shallow thinking

9) an emotionally fulfilled woman won't nag her husband—do your part in the "partnership"

10) so do many men.

11) again, shallow thinking amongst men in general.

these are not "uncomfortable truths"

they're justifications to rationalize (very poorly) being an a-hole

mrclownworld 11mo ago

2) yes, like it or not, young and beautiful means high status. Beautiful means good genes and healthy, and young means large window of reproductive potential. We are biological creatures that reproduce sexually.

3) sure, but pretending looks don’t matter to status is the sort of thing unattractive people tell themselves to cope

5) Lesbians have a higher divorce rate than heterosexual couples and gay men have a lower divorce rate. If men were the problem with marriages, this would be reversed

7) every relationship is transactional, the best ones are not give and take but give and give. If a spouse gives nothing, the marriage is doomed.

8 ) a bumble survey found 60% of women filter out men shorter than 6 ft (which is 15% of men). Baldness and fitness are equally dealbreakers for women. It may seem shallow, but that’s human behavior in no way exclusive to men

9 ) see the above divorce statistics

10 ) women demonstrate higher negative attribution bias than men, this has been extensively studied

11 ) women have their sexual preferences rooted in their biological needs as well. Pretending nature can conform to your desires is a fool’s errand

These are uncomfortable truths and your denial of them is cope for your inadequacies (sour grapes)

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purrs_for_Her 11mo ago

*sigh*

2) bio-essentialism doesn't dictate status—that's done culturally. a lot of people considered "low status" reproduce.

3) that's not an argument

5) you don't seem to understand the point i made—you're comparing something different (heterosexual couples aren't same-sex couples) (and besides, divorce rates are a distraction and not the point)

7) give - give isn't a transaction. unconditional love should be just what it means—unconditional. what happens if your partner is sick? do you stop giving? no. you give more. do you keep score? no. because it's not a transaction.

8) i can look outside and see this is false. plenty of bald, short men have partners.

9) my point still stands

10) you missed the point: having a negative attribution bias doesn't make one a nasty person. men do nasty things all around the world—should all men be called rapists, traffickers, child predators, violent criminals, war mongers, etc.?

11) again, just because men value beauty does not automatically qualify it as "high status." it consists of a lot more than beauty.

once more, you're not citing "uncomfortable truths," you're just being an a-hole.

mrclownworld 11mo ago

Good luck in the next election, cuck

purrs_for_Her 11mo ago

imagine calling someone a cuck while clinging to another man's victory. (a politician at that)

the internet is so silly :3