To what purpose?
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Because Nostr doesn’t make everyone suddenly immune to false information or intentional deception
People have to take accountability for their own education. What kind of nonsense is this world coming to?
that would be great
only if that happened
"Truth emerges from the clash of adverse ideas."
- John Stuart Mill
Yeah, but community notes are there to double-check celebrities. Our "celebrities" have a majority-cult following, so the community notes would be aimed at critics of the celebrities. We're already under immense social pressure to give up and shut up, and that would just add to it.
Not like they wouldn’t push back against this
It works on Twitter because it is more egalitarian, than Nostr; there are different groups that disagree, and different people have different content in their feeds. Here, there's one group that completely dominates, and a handful of occasional dissenters with hardly any reach.
Like, if Odell writes something and I contradict him, that's not enough for a community note. I would have to find other npubs, who agree with me AND have the balls to admit it in public, AND other npubs who usually agree with Odell, AND who are willing make an exception in this case.
Too many improbable ANDs.
I mean, he's got over 160k followers and I have 700. 😂
A working community notes system shouldn't depend on the number of followers you have. One way this could work would be to have a community notes feed that you subscribe to. A community note is provisionally added to an existing note, but is invisible in the feed unless you're viewing the community notes feed. From there, when a nominal number of votes on the proposed note and percentage agreeing with the community note is met, it becomes visible in clients that support community notes. Obviously once it becomes visible the user affected can direct their followers to vote against the note but they still *see* the note they're voting against and there's no guarantee that they will automatically follow that direction.
There are of course issues with bots that would need to be dealt with perhaps using account age or other factors to allow access to community notes and an ability to ban npubs that abuse the system (particularly if they bot creating notes that fill the feed).
Hmmm, a reasonable (if rather complex to implement) proposal.
Amethyst, currently, by default hides a note if it has been the subject of 5+ "Kind 1984" reports by your follows.
Kind 1984s already have a text field, so in that way we already have "Community Notes".
Amethyst (and other clients) could, for notes with a certain range of reports, display the Kind 1984 text as a "Community Note".
The only change required would be in the UX.
Would this "scratch the Community Notes itch", do you think?
No, I absolutely DO NOT want notes reported or hidden and tagr bot shouldn't have been reporting notes to achieve the feed it offered. The whole point is that people should see both arguments. More free speech, not less.
If kind 1984 is modified in this way, not all clients will update to display the notes so this activity will result in even more notes being hidden.
I'm only suggesting that reported notes be "Community Noted", rather than hidden, for clients supporting the feature.
At the moment, such reported notes are hidden by default in Amethyst. It is a very simple system, but I find it works rather well at present.
We could have users configure at what number of follow-reports a particular note will be "Community Noted" and at what number hidden.
And he's financing Primal and OpenSats, right? He basically bought up Nostr development.
This is his other fund. You can see Mutiny, Strike, and Primal, in the list.
And Coinkite, of course. NVK is from Coinkite and sits with Odell on the OpenSats board. And one of the Ten31 board members is also a Strike board member.
The fact that Strike and Primal are financed by the same fund helps explain why they ended up so closely integrated in the app. Pablo has been hanging out with Odell, and now everyone from Primal is getting auto-redirected to his Highlighter app, to read long-form notes. This goes against the natural market, which tended to prefer Habla, or read the articles embedded in the Kind 01 apps.
Intertwined like a plate of 🍝. But, if you complain about the money bags dictating app development, you just get buried deeper.
And look at the OpenSats board. It's clearly a Bitcoin fund, not a Nostr fund.
Oh, and now Listr is also nudging people toward Primal.
Primal seems to have been determined to be the God App and everything is supposed to lead to and from there. That way, they build a closed circle and it becomes a Primal-based suit of products, with the Strike app handling everyone's monetary transactions and normalizing KYC during onboarding.
I won't use Primal for the simple reason that they don't adhere to the outbox model for relay configuration, like Amethyst, and now YakiHonne does. Primal seems intent on doing it their own way, and not adhering to nostr standards. I'm not a fan.
I prefer YakiHonne for long-form articles. Their new design and UX is really nice, and they've put a lot of work into optimizing it specifically for long-form. I tried both Highlighter and Habla, and I didn't really like either of them, although I definitely liked Habla more than Highlighter.
I'm also a YakiHonne user for articles... ✌🏻
Oh, yeah, they're also quite popular. I always forget about them because my Firefox signer gave me problems with their site login, but it seemed to work, last time I tried.
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