And like I said in the note you're responding to: I don't think they should give up. I think it's still worth living your life as if you could succeed. But I think it's important to be honest with people, also. And to not speak in ridiculous absolutes like "Women should raise the kids, single-income men should provide for them - everyone CAN do this, if they choose not to they're lazy or have their priorities screwed up".

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