Nostr

Trust me I know the bitcoin supply will not be changed…….but I don’t think humans are even close to knowing what factual reality is (if there even is one). Since everyone’s experience is relative to themselves, when someone says there is an objective shared reality they are coming to that conclusion from their own logic shaped by their relative experiences and perspectives which contradicts something being objective.

All we have is our logic, and our logic is relative to ourselves. We can agree on things to the extent that can be expressed through understandable channels (language, emotion, mathematics, ect.) but this is not proof that there is objective reality. There are only moments in time where we agree on things that can be conveyed. We are all swimming in our own water and you never truly know what someone else’s reality is.

This is just the way I see things, I don’t think it is truth and I’m usually changing the way I think about reality quite often because I’m constantly thinking about these things! I enjoy it 🤙

nicnym 1y ago

Yes I agree I enjoy talking like this.

On the objective vs subjective I believe Plato in the cave allegory makes the argument that defines modern logic and we should be able to agree on the premise:

Even if we have different perspectives on reality, there is such a thing as truth and it benefits us to see it more clearly.

Furthermore, our experience proves the existence of an objective reality because how would we be able to interact if for example… we had different ideas about how to use nostr to send these messages?

Maybe you use Amethyst and I use primal, but we both see the reality that nostr exists and we are proving it exists by having this conversation.

Diversions from reality can be maintained, but only so long- for example- I think the Stop sign in my town means Go, eventually I will be in an accident and the reality will show itself.

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Force2B 1y ago

I think you and I are talking about different things. You are talking about consistencies we choose to accept on different levels (stop signs on a local community level, nostr between you and I, ect.) I am referring truth, specifically that no one person can prove that their reality is truth because you can never know if some other entity has experienced the same moment in a way that opposes your logic. You don’t know what you don’t know and we sure as hell can’t see into the future yet so you never know if everything completely changes tomorrow, instantly your prior truth becomes untrue. Anyway if no one person can know that their reality is truth I think it is funny that we think if we get enough people together saying the same thing it now becomes truth, I just see this as voluntary acceptance of a consistency that we have noticed to date (but can still change in the future as our understanding science and physics often does).

I know none of what I am talking about has any tangible value that can be acted on, but I do think this framing should lead to a little more humility and open-mindedness…….and unending questioning which I think is good.

Keeps life interesting, when there is never a finish line. There is always more progress and possibilities.

nicnym 1y ago

Of course we think different things and have different logic etc, but truth and reality is “outside” of our opinion of it- (the stop sign, using nostr or Bitcoin)

It is those people who can get *close enough* to actual truth who are free to act in the most unrestricted way possible.

If your intention is success then you will be forced to recognize that reality exists and you can start working to understand it better.

If your intention is destruction and failure- you will make excuses about why your reality isn’t what you desire.

Force2B 1y ago

👍 good talkin’ I enjoyed it my friend