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35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst.

36 But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe.

37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.

38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me.

39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day.

40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

41 So the Jews grumbled about him, because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.”

42 They said, “Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How does he now say, ‘I have come down from heaven’?”

43 Jesus answered them, “Do not grumble among yourselves.

44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

45 It is written in the Prophets, ‘And they will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me

#ToChristAlone

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Laser 3w ago 💬 30

Do you agree with Jesus Christ?

"You have seen me and yet do not believe."

1. Even as Christ performed miracles, feeding a multitude with little, they refused to believe He was God even witnessing and participating in those miracles.

"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him."

2. Man is totally depraved. Fallen. A slave to sin. God-hating. A man can only come to Christ if God regenerates Him and *draws* him into Christ. No Christian can boast of their faith or salvation, for they contributed nothing, even needing God's hand to believe.

"For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me."

3. Christ is here to do the Father's will.

"For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life"

4. The Father's will is that Christ will save everyone, every single person, whom the Father has sent Him to save. Not to offer salvation to the world, but to save without error those whom God sent Him to save.

" I should lose nothing of all that he has given me"

5. Christ will fail to save zero whom He was sent to save. God will fail to redeem zero whom He has predestined to Himself.

Conclusion: All whom God has predestined, the elect, to be redeemed to Himself (of their Sin) *will* be drawn into Christ, whom Christ WILL KEEP AND LOSE NOTHING.

This is the Gospel, straight from God's mouth.

#ToChristAlone

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BushRat 3w ago 💬 3

"be not like the hypocrites who preach"

It's like a command not to be like this, to just be humble and live your life according to Jesus Christ teachings.

Jesus isn't going to save you because you preached some shit online at people.

Like saying people are depraved and fallen for not practicing your version of hate.

Saying stuff like what you say on here is a one way ticket to hell according to the Bible from what I understand

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Laser 3w ago 💬 1

1. Exegetes Scripture literally.

2. "This is hate speech."

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Laser 3w ago

It's you.

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BushRat 3w ago

I'm technically a Christian.

I try to live by Christ teachings.

It's hard sometimes, especially without religious guilt to enforce it, I don't believe a magically man in the sky made us in his image.

But I do believe religion holds a lot of wisdom.

Jesus Christ was a spiritual teacher, if he was born in India or Tibet or wherever he would have been considered a Buddha.

You inherit the culture you're born into afterall.

I was raised by Christians, it's part of my culture, I'm a cherry picker so I normally wouldn't call myself Christian but part of me is.

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BushRat 3w ago

We were taught that big noting yourself as a better Christian than others was against Jesus teachings.

Same for preaching any kind of hate, god will punish you for it.

The truth doesn't need hate or violence to prop it up.

I left the church because I simply don't believe the magic man made us in his image, but the rest of it kinda stayed with me

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Nope Noperson 3w ago 💬 1

And he said to them, "Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. (Mark 16:15, ESV)

For "everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching? And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!" (Romans 10:13-15, ESV)

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Laser 3w ago 💬 1

BushRats argument is that the Bible says not to preach the Bible because "hypocrites"...

Nailed it. 🤡

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BushRat 3w ago 💬 2

Preaching the Bible =\= using the Bible to preach hate and get attention from people

I got absolutely no problem with people on here who share Bible verses or talk about their church, religious festivities, personal beliefs.

That stuff is all cool.

But Claiming to be Christian while spreading hate and toxicity only perpetuates negative stereotypes about Christians.

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Nope Noperson 3w ago

What in the post you commented on, above, is hateful? Seems like he is sharing the bible.

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833336b4... 3w ago

What’s wrong with hate? There are things we should hate like evil and sin.

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BushRat 3w ago

This conversation has been going on for 2 days.

Preaching hate in order to get attention is not the Christian way.

That was my original point.

I'm not here to feed trolls.

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833336b4... 3w ago

And you have established that you don’t have a meaningful definition for “hate” or why “preaching hate” is even bad. Your sentimental, nebulous argument is silly.

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833336b4... 3w ago

“Do I not hate them, O Lord, who hate You? And do I not loathe those who rise up against You?”

‭‭Psalms‬ ‭139‬:‭21‬

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nobody 3w ago

“Be passive and let everyone do whatever they want and trample your civilization and culture bigot!”

No.

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BushRat 3w ago 💬 1

Another fake Christian.

You people are insufferable.

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Laser 3w ago 💬 1

So are you.

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Laser 3w ago

Muting for snapchatting with children belonging to other families.

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🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 3w ago

15 year old children, you mean? I don't use snapchat or have friends of any age but mute me too

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BushRat 3w ago

Generally speaking, when someone accuses a stranger on the internet of pedophilia, over a totally unrelated disagreement, it's projection.

Simple as that.

I would be lying if I said I was surprised he said that, the hatred of adult women, all the things he says against women having control over their own bodies, it was all red flags.

And all this because I asked him to stop preaching hate.

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BushRat 3w ago

You have to be 16 (with a learner drivers licence) to set up a simcard for calls and texting.

These laws are isolating younger teens, taking away their support networks, the people they reach out to for help.

The people supporting these laws are the people who want the kids isolated and vulnerable, the youth prisons with empty beds, that are losing profits because youth crime has been the lowest it's been in 25 years, and obviously the fake Christians who worship Israel and want the children to be more easily brainwashed without being exposed to the videos of Palestinian children getting blown up with our taxes.

So which one are you?

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nobody 3w ago

Being called a fake Christian by a midwit that understands nothing of scripture or Christ is the highest compliment. Thank you.

Sorry you can’t Snapchat other peoples 15 year old children maybe just commit yourself to a psychiatric ward

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Rojo 3w ago

Don’t waste your time with Laser. Just a few months ago he even stated how he’s still a beginner in learning about Christianity, yet he feels the need to use his ‘faith’ for hate. Classic example of a “Christian” how has never read the Bible, and only chooses specific passages to quote.

Idk how he has such a following.

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Nope Noperson 3w ago 💬 1

To preach in order to be seen by others as righteous is analogous to the Pharisees praying in public.

This may be their point.

But, it assumes your motive is insincere. That assumption seems pretty prejudiced.

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Laser 3w ago

Preaching God's word boldly is a duty of the Christian, even as he is guaranteed to collide with the god-hating.

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nobody 3w ago

Having a modicum of standards does not mean hate. What we do matters.

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Contra 3w ago 💬 1

Yes!! This then sets up later what Jesus says….“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him” (John 6:44).​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

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Laser 3w ago

I believe Him too.

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Contra 3w ago

Likewise. 👊🏼

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The Big D-Base 3w ago

"For many be called, but few chosen"

(Matthew 20:16)

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lex 3w ago 💬 1

How could they be called but not chosen? (According to the above?)

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Laser 3w ago 💬 1

Because God's saints "disciple the nations" preaching and evangelizing the Gospel, even knowing that God will not draw all into Christ.

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Laser 3w ago 💬 1

Relevant.

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Laser 3w ago 💬 1

Doh. Relevant:

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Laser 3w ago 💬 1

The challenging reality for Christians is not knowing who has been selected for salvation, including themselves.

It is possible to be turned away at judgment day even as a lifelong "Christian" because man's ability to decieve himself is unmatched.

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lex 3w ago 💬 1

Can you truly Love God and but be dammed?

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Laser 3w ago 💬 1

One cannot truly love Christ without God's predestination.

One can decieve themselves as to their election.

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Laser 3w ago

The only (imperfect) sense that Man can have is in perseverance in sanctification and repentance; those whom God did not draw in will fall away to Sin; there life will not be progressively transformed like the Elect.

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lex 3w ago 💬 1

Agreed, but can the Elect fall away? did Christ not say of the end times “even the elect will be deceived”?

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Laser 3w ago

No the Elect cannot fall away.

They can and do Sin, but feel deep remorse and are then disciplined by God in continued repentance /sanctification.

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Shytayla 3w ago

Hi

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lex 3w ago 💬 1

Aquinas teaches that predestination involves God’s active decree to grant efficacious grace leading to glory for the elect, while reprobation is passive God permits damnation due to the creature’s foreseen refusal of grace. This preserves divine mercy in election and justice in punishment, as reprobation stems from sin rather than God’s positive will.

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lex 3w ago

Guess it really comes down to can you “reject God”, if you can’t we have no free will (either to accept or reject), and without free will there can be no Love.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/437424-god-created-things-which-had-free-will-that-means-creatures?utm_source=perplexity

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Laser 3w ago

Does Christ save all people partially, or does Christ save all of God's people perfectly?

The Bible teaches, Jesus Christ Himself teaches, that He is the perfect savior of God's elect people.

Those with salvation did nothing to contribute or earn it; God redeemed them by Himself, for Himself, from Himself.

#ToChristAlone

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