"People who don't run nodes aren't actually using Bitcoin to its fullest extent, even if they hold their own keys..."
I don't see how this detracts from my point that almost no Bitcoiners are capable and/or interested in understanding/verifying for themselves. They're just "trusting". So how is that different from Monero for those users (vast majority of Bitcoiners)?
"Payjoin is not privacy by obfuscation...Payjoin allows users to break input heuristics..."
In other words obfuscation...it's ownership obfuscation. If it wasn't, you wouldn't need to break heuristics because it wouldn't be possible to begin with i.e. Pedersen Commitments and Stealth Addresses used by Monero that actually hide information.
"Does it solve "privacy"? of course not (theres other heuristics), but it's an incremental improvement..."
I was never contesting that payjoins are an improvement. They surely are. But it is still weaker obfuscation. It is "leaky" and vulnerable to statistical analysis. This is why Monero sender privacy is weaker than it's other layers and is replacing ring signatures with FCMPs.
"That's just the nature of the design...Privacy isn't a feature of the base layer (utxos), and the idea is to build privacy tools in protocols using the existing utxo set instead of going out and build a whole new token..."
Okay, I get that. But "why" Bitcoin is designed this way doesn't change the fact that Bitcoin is not private.
"Personally "Use this token if you want privacy" doesn't make sense to me. Cryptonote tokens don't have the same assurances."
Ok, again, that last part has nothing to do with privacy.
"The claims you made that those PoW schemes have advantages in accessibility, ubiquity, plausible deniability (strange selection btw) and declaring those schemes as means to control energy draw, noise, or heat is nonsense. Those schemes exist to obfuscate energy use -- adding unnecessary complexity to a transparent process."
You're conflating the reasons RandomX was created with unintended advantages that emerged from it. I never claimed those were the reasons why RandomX was created.
You say they are strange and nonsense advantages, yet don't really elaborate why.
Having more accessible and ubiquitous general purpose mining + being able to "blend in" and have plausible deniability that you are mining, sound like massive advantages in adversarial environments to me.
i.e.
"Police raid a concealed #Bitcoin mining operation, initially mistaking it for an illegal marijuana farm due to the heat signature"
https://twitter.com/BitcoinNewsCom/status/1721359382745874489
It would be more honest to say both projects are optimizing for different goals and have advantages/disadvantages that come with them. The same way a hammer is not the ideal tool for every single task that exists.