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There is no source thats the whole point. That doesn't mean this source is accuarate or any kind of picture of the network at all, I would also like to point out that this site went nuts after amethyst moved to outbox.
This. As more users move away from using the "main" relays, stats will be harder to meaningfully collect. More small relays, more decentralization is the future, not giant centralized ones.
It only matters to VC funders and inflooooencers anyways, just like follower count.
Bias is real. People have set up shop on Nostr and don't want to think their time has been wasted.
However, data is a metric, and this is the most accurate data available. I've been tracking these stats monthly, and my (and others) personal experience at 3 years in, concurs. I would be happy to be proven wrong.
We all want Nostr to succeed. But denial is not the way of growth.
Data is either accurate or its not there is no "most accurate". Chasing false data leads to innaccuracies of very high proportions.
We want nostr to succeed, denial is not the way to go. Chasing false metrics isn't the way to go either,
It's sad your anecdote matches this, maybe work on your engagement? Maybe its you in denial and finding comfort in false data?
My anecdotes have not been the same
same. One thing that helped was nuking my contact list and engaging with new people.
I am at 33,632 followers. My engagement and experience is strong enough to justify my statements.
Old accounts, follower counts means nothing for engagement. People with millions of followers on x receive less engagement than an account with few thousand follower accounts in nostr, these are just bullshit anecdotes.
Do you claim to know my engagement?
Yours is a public account on a public network. I can just verify your engagement by looking at your profile, and ill have to say im not suprised.
I have far "fewer" followers than new, but much more engagement.
Okay. I'm not going to dispute you on subjective engagement. I could also chat to my favorite 20 friends over and over every day and claim that I had better engagement.
So make friends.
Save your presumptive advice for someone who needs it.
Sorry for getting under your skin. Force of habit. I like your notes, but I do think you're wrong on this one.
You have not gotten under my skin, my friend. Though I disagree, I respect your opinion. We both want to see Nostr succeed.
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It's likely most followers are dead accounts and bots anyway. Anyone who is a default follow in primal also has inflated numbers. Once you remove the bots and dead accounts, the numbers look more realistic for the theoretical number of users on Nostr.
nostr:nprofile1qqs0dqlgwq6l0t20gnstnr8mm9fhu9j9t2fv6wxwl3xtx8dh24l4auspzemhxue69uhkzat5dqhxummnw3erztnrdakj7qg4waehxw309a4x2mrv09nxjumg9ekxzmny9uq3vamnwvaz7tmdd3jkkafwwfjkzmre9ekx7mp0yahvqr has been doing great work to make actually usable stats at npub.world, removing bots and accounts that never interact.
For instance, I show around 5k follows on nostr.band, and around 3.6k on npub.world. Ava is about 33k/6.6k. Yours is very close at 1.8k/1.5k.
These numbers only matter to inflooooencers anyways. Bragging about your follower count is degenerate behavior, best to ignore those kinds of people.
nostr:nprofile1qqsx8x8ptc6pdhsf8wtregu8s0f2v65k2l9s3ja6fup9gmxa2km0rfqpzemhxue69uhkummnw3ezuerpw3sju6rpw4ej7qg4waehxw309asjuenvdamk2unjwghxxmmd9uq3wamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwwpexjmtpdshxuet59u0dsf4h might also be able to give some good info. He runs profilestr.com, but I'm not sure how he is collecting the stats, what relays he uses, or if he is removing bots like npub.world.
Also the "trusted account metric" on the site would leave out solid profiles like nostr:nprofile1qqsf5g2kjf2apgafua03mchyezpun03w2c2cslezktk0dvvp80x4slgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7zxfv67 whose been amazing to engage with in the last few days because they Dont have zaps enabled.
Amethyst reping 40% of nostr doesn't seem accurate either but what do i know ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
It isnt I don't know, im just pointing a correlation, but the important point is no one knows and its stupid to be looking at this anyway.
It's the most popular client on the most popular OS, that has been around almost since the very beginning. It's likely it has a large number number of users. I'm not sure if 40% is true, but it probably has a sizable chunk.
I use Amethyst only features in some posts, and still get plenty of engagement on them FWIW.
Have yet to try Amethyst so don't really know what I'm missing.
You're missing out man, its an amazing client
client.
Next mobile device will be Android so looking forward to it but I'm still hustling a fiat job to stack sats so it's going to wait till next year most likely.
Agreed. I've been here for 3 years, I try every client I can, and I keep coming back to Amethyst.
If it only had polls ๐
It's Open Source, you could add them, and it already has a lot of contributors, Vitor seems to like help. Seeing as the framework already exists in app for the currently existing zap polls, would it be that hard to swap in the functions for non zap polls? You'd think a lot of the work is already done.
I tried a few months ago I could vibe something up definitely, but I don't think I would have the time to go through the review process and the back and forths.
I could complain though, thats easy ๐
dead? more like hibernating, waiting for the right poll to stir the hive. open-source magic: swap in those functions, and watch nostr's pulse light up like a fresh canvas. vitor's crew could use a pixel-pusher like you.