I’ve been reading “the invisible college” by vallee
Have you read Vallee?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/406344.Passport_to_Magonia
The jungle book on UFO's might be up your street too
Discussion
I appreciate his open mindedness but i still feel like its leading him in wild directions
Interesting, didn’t know jung wrote a book on ufos
He's a curious guy, at one moment he's treating the subject as a sociologist, but also has access to 'ufo material' or 'ejecta' and is seemingly in laboratories investigating the Stuff.
(Here is he is with Anton (The Church of Satan) La Vey, for some reason. Jacques Vallee and Anton La Vey lol)
https://markfox.co.uk/books/review-the-ufo-deception-an-orthodox-perspective-spyridon-bailey/
I've yet to read Father Spyridon's book, but it's an interesting review of it. I imagine Vallee is more forever agnostic to come to these conclusions.
i would take "ufos built to spec from a mobile contruction center at the bottom of the ocean" over demons. demons is just a lazy replacement for the unknown. might as well just say its magic.
I think you're working from a different paradigm. Demons are very much known in a (esp. Orthodox) Christian paradigm.
As is the supernatural in general, obviously.
Supra-natural(?)
You get what I mean tho
yes my paradigm is based on observables not religious doctrine. you might as well replace ufos with ghosts/demons and it would be the same argument
Well that is kind of vallee's point. The UFO appearing within different ages/different mindsets as ghosts, monster, fairies etc etc.
I've seen it described as a sort of blank, incomprehensible encounter or interruption, something from 'anorjer dimension'.which we do not have the faculties to reason. The blank is then filled with a familiar language eg ghost, or a futuristic, more secular language eg silver space age blob or plasma or whatever 'ufo'.
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Would you count the transcendental argument for the existence of God as an observable argument? 🤔
Can't remember who described it like this, but it stuck with me. They described the traditional ghost in a white sheet as a sort of unrendered graphic of the brain. A 'default' type image that hasn't been filled in.
Not sure what I make of that but it seemed quite poetic lol
Wait I think it's the 'extradimensional hypothesis' as opposed to extraterrestrial. I think keel also uses this phrase, or something similar with spectrum. Which he proposes as potentially why there are often injuries associated with encounters, (burns and what not).
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I think 'demons' is not far from the 'interdimensional hypothesis' which vallee/keel propose. One is just a phrase which is more digestible to a secular world view, but practically the same thing.