strike, swan, etc aren’t your friends. they don’t hold their own reserves and all rely on the same centralized entity, primetrust. this is totally antithetical to the ideas of bitcoin and should be avoided. check out bisq and start buying p2p

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Swan advocate heavily for self-custody.

it doesn’t matter. they still dont actually sell you bitcoin. they’re a marketing front end for primetrust

Not in the US so can’t verify for myself. But trying to understand.

β€œThey still don’t actually sell you bitcoin”

Are you saying I can’t make a Swan account, exchange fiat for Bitcoin take self-custody and have Bitcoin in a wallet?

swan is simply a reseller for primetrust. they’re a centralized bitcoin seller which exchanges like swan and strike resell for for. when you withdraw from most primetrust services, you receive your bitcoin from a primetrust wallet and not from the exchange itself

So, how could things go awry? I mean if one withdraws/ self custodies from swan (prime trust) ?

I think what OP is getting at here is that if you have the experience and skill to buy P2P #Bitcoin do it.

Don’t patronize these megaliths no matter what front they’re using.

Got it. Thanks.

I would pose a question to you that if the overwhelming majority of exchanges use primetrust for their reserves, and primetrust is responsible for their own kyc / aml, what happens when primetrust refuses to serve you? this level of centralization at the exchange layer is inherently bad for bitcoin as well as dangerous

I see it now, that prime trust is getting too big and that’s concerning.

Swan 🦒 is a huge concern to me I must agree

The guy who runs it very quick to pick everyone albeit he’s been right

Normally you divert attention for a good reason

Or u wouldn’t care about what others are doing you’d focus on putting out your own message

Interesting I share your distrust of Swan

i think there’s a place for exchanges like swan in the grand scheme of adoption, being that your grandmother isn’t going to use bisq. however, experienced bitcoins should never use these services. not in a world in which p2p exchanges exist

depends who is holding the key. If you are holding your own key, who cares if they have reserve or not.

the problem isn’t custody, it’s centralization

It is a company. of course it is centralized.