Probably the wrong area to start trying to bring some kind of humanitarianism into LOL but yeah I have no idea of the context of this situation really but you could have “free speech” by law and consequences of HATE speech. Why the fuck do you people think it’s okay to be transphobic and homophobic? Sick of it!! Fuck off with it, go back to your caveman days but don’t drag the rest of the evolving world with you.
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Sick of woke this woke that and you think you’re all independent thinkers??? This shit us like a cult!! Every ‘side’ follows the ideas of other people, there seem to be no real empathic, literal independent thinkers anymore, you hear some crap buzzword and immediately without thinking are against it 🐑🐑🐑
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hate speech isnt real. its free or its nothing. I am critical towards these communities as a drivers of culture in society, but I do not hate anyone for pursuing liberty and happiness. Phobia would imply some sort of fear, of which I have none. I have pity if anything.
What pity? Of course hate speech is real, you can’t gaslight everyone into thinking it is not https://www.un.org/en/hate-speech/understanding-hate-speech/what-is-hate-speech
People can’t just tinfoil hat EVERYTHING they don’t agree with cos they are a white heterosexual Christian or something https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/hate-speech
its real in the sense that speech can express hate, but the laws against it are unjust and should not be obeyed
Why is it so just though?? Which laws?? Why is it so much more unjust than people being culturally conditioned to believe it’s ok to be homophobic etc and then go further and physically harm people me worse and worse is allowed to bully oppressed people
freedom of speech nessesitates expression of both love and hate because they are human. Its ok to not like something, and its ok to say so aswell. That is not violence or causing physical harm
But it leads to it. It’s cultural conditioning. So it’s a problem, because as much as it’s repeated like a mantra, Bitcoin doesn’t fix this, nostr doesn’t fix this. Neither are supporting and protecting EVERYONE in the current states it is and how they are promoted/used in the world now. I’m not saying it’s all wrong but what I say is true, these things don’t support and protect everyone. I can’t even block people in here if I was being harassed, I’ve definitely spoken to other women who agree with me that should be the case. It just seems perhaps the world might segregate off into different societies which value different morals, different social media platforms and companies depending on what your moral ideals are and maybe people won’t see so much of what other people do. Idk what else there is to do. Just create societal echo chambers cos I don’t see why I should live the way some others want to. Read the article I posted btw
you can mute people and block then from your dm’s… If you want to break cultural conditioning a ucensorable plattform to spread that message will be a good thing if the people agree on your statements. if you rely on limiting freedom of speech to get your message across then maybe the idea is bad
Well not enough sorry! I’m just really not liking the sheer amount of homophobia, anti feminism and transphobia for a start I see on here… need to think of alternatives for helping the world evolve into having a bit more empathy cos this sure doesn’t solve everything
FREEDOM as a complete concept is not just the way bitcoiners or some fucker south of Richmond wants to live, just a reminder freedom also means that people should have a right to be safe from harassment for being who they are
So how is it really going to be the way??
Cos this protocol is just seems to be spreading it and not making it overall better for people who have been oppressed…don’t like seeing it so maybe it’s not the place for me here. I don’t know what the way forward is
if you dont want to look, dont look. If you cannot find value in a plattform without sensorship then legacy plattform might be better suited for your temperament.
*Censorship at least if you’re going to talk about a subject you’d surely know how to spell?? Yeah maybe I’ll just make my own website one day! I see some value to it otherwise wouldn’t have used but unfortunately in a year I’ve seen so much regressive hate which I think is harmful. And don’t know what should be done about it
not a native english speaker, sorry for my poor spelling. make the website. spread the message. I wish you luck.
Why don’t people just have that same mindset and principle then rather than being homophobic/transphobic etc? You say if you want to look then look, if you don’t want to then don’t. Why can’t people just be like If you want to live that way do it if not don’t?? But they have to spout harmful crap on the internet 🤷🏼♀️ which then rallies people up into agreeing then wanting to make laws to stop such awful behaviour and then laws to allow harm towards them maybe laws to round them up into a camp in a Holocaust or something…all begins with a few words and hateful propaganda. I’m not sure about centralised censorship but I’m definitely not sure about allowing hate speech feee flowing in the world without people doing something about it
*free obviously but I’d course I have SO MUCH control in this protocol I couldn’t even delete my own post to type again
the bar for what constitues harrasment is so low these days.
Yeah sometimes, but from all sides! Probably for the best?? So people should be harassed you think?? It’s about having ongoing conversations on how to treat people not just shoving it all in one box and trying to bury it. And conservatism has controlled to an extent with intent and actual harm that leftism never has. But all I see mostly here is people arguing that progressivism is the only wrong which is not true
If you’re saying oh because some people think too extremely about harassment we should allow ALL harassment?? That just sounds insane. It’s about ongoing conversation, trying to be empathic to each other and also sometimes perhaps fuckers who never had to deal with repercussions of types of oppression could learn something from others
Like I said it’s not about control control so much it’s about letting people have a choice. But also there will be consequences eg if someone like Elon spouts transphobic nonsense on Twitter, advertisers who dont agree have the freedom to remove themselves from it. They aren’t doing anything other than having THEIR freedom and Elon has the freedom to spout his crap, but apparently that all ain’t right for most people who say it’s woke this woke that. But it’s okay for some to have freedom right??
I pity them because they will not have offspring and some are doing irrepairable damage to their bodies
That’s their choice?? So changing your body is ‘damage’ right??? 🤣🤣🤣 it’s about control and coercing people into the old word order which is bollocks. People who are forced to do things in the way just because it’s always been done that way are bored of it and want their freedoms. Maybe people don’t want ‘offspring’ or maybe they can adopt or have surrogacy as long as a person is not exploited or it.
Could you provide some examples of "consequences of hate speech"? Are these consequences already illegal?
No look it up online yourself. said enough today about it