Apparently one of the arguments Keynesians make for why Bitcoin's fair value is close to zero goes like this:

MV=PQ

M is the total money supply

V is the velocity of money, that is the average frequency with which a unit of money is spent.

P is the price level of the money unit

Q is an index of purchases

The value of the Bitcoin economy = (PQ)/(V*21000000)

Since almost nobody transacts in BTC for goods and services, Q=~0 and thus Bitcoin's economic value is basically zero.

While it's true that almost no one transacts in BTC on a regular basis, the logic is flawed.

MV=PQ is the equation of exchange. It's a way of measuring the amount of money that an economy needs based upon the demand for transacting. It's Keynesian demand-side monetary theory as opposed to Austrian supply-side theory.

Here's the unstated assumption for why the equation is wrong. More accurately, I'd say the equation is INCOMPLETE. The whole thing is built upon the assumption that the ONLY factor for demand of money is to SPEND it. We all know that's absurd. As such, this equation can AT MOST only quantify demand for SPENDING value, not storing value.

The Keynesians can't comprehend the value of Fuck You savings.

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Well explained πŸ‘

MV != PQ

Listen Jimmy, how the fuck is Mainvolume even connected to Post Quantum as business?

All the fucking in the world won’t change anything.

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Keynesians and their MMT offspring starting with the false premise that velocity is what's valuable.

More of their twisted incentives.

The byproduct of fiat.

True enough.

But it DOES mean Bitcoins fair value is harder to price, and is more exposed to the winds of mass psychology than other media of exchange / stores of value.

If people use a currency to buy bread, or pay off uniformed thugs threatening to seize their homes, then demand for that currency is inelastic and cannot fall too close to zero for long.

#monero has extreme price stability in commodities / fiat compared to Bitcoin, even though total adoption and market cap is much lower.

Is it fair to say that the Keynesian definition of money requires that you cannot use it for savings?

Keynesianism is predicated on all people being mindless commie serfs who want daddy to govern them harder

Keynesians are control freaks. Thank God for Bitcoin.

Also velocity of money is just shenanigans cooked up to make them sound smart and make you feel dumb.

No one can make you feel dumb without your consent.

None of these models simply factor in Greshams Law.

People will always spend the worst currencies first and hoard the ones that hold value. We dont live in a world where Bitcoin is the only currency, not yet. All the different fiats need to get dumped and get to a state of "not accepted" before entertaining such frameworks.

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What would a complete equation be?

1 BTC = 1 BTC

Well said πŸ‘

Don't forget that their other killer argument here is that Bitcoin isn't scarce because it's divisible to 8 decimal places, so we don't really need that much of it regardless πŸ™ƒ And my god, there are no cash flows so the present value is mathematically zero. They got us.

MV=PQ=BS

"Bull x Shit" indicates the value of Keynsian Calculus

Meanwhile the self-aware evolve and ascend...

Told you, Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.πŸ€£πŸ˜„β˜•πŸ‘.

Told you @lopp ,Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.πŸ€£πŸ˜„β˜•πŸ‘.

Okay, now dig the fucking trench.