I get a lot of hate because I’m not your typical #bitcoin maxi?

I’ve mined bitcoin, litecoin, dash, monero & more.

I’ve bought & traded on mt gox & cryptsy, much less every major exchange in the last decade.

I’ve been apart of scams, thefts, ico,

I’ve made a ton of money & I’ve lost a ton of money.

In my opinion all money is fucking worthless & the only real way we win is without any.

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That sounds dangerously like communism

Naw just true sovereignty

A real v4v system.

Lol what is money if not a V4V system

My point is if one is truly sovereign you don’t need any "money"

The "value" of "money" is intrinsic to each specific user.

I’m not saying money is worthless

It’s worthless to sovereign individuals

That's silly. Money is just a placeholder/scorekeeper for the things of value that you will ALWAYS need: food, shelter, clothing, transportation, etc

If your not sovereign.

Once sovereign you don’t need money.

A simpler life make this easier.

Oh? Who's going to pay the property taxes on the land you're supposedly "sovereign" on without money?

I understand we don’t see eye to eye & this is ok.

Who said anything about paying taxes.

Taxation is theft.

I agree taxation is theft, but you won't be very sovereign in prison for non-payment of taxes or you'll end up being "sovereign" on the streets when they repossess your property

Have I paid taxes in a decade?

Still a land owner.

I didn't say it would be immediate. But you don't think your property is at risk of being seized by the state if you don't pay your property taxes?

By sovereign do you also mean a prepper/hoarder? Or do you barter?

Money is a vastly superior tool for trading. Unless you have all the goods and services you’ll ever need I fail to see how sovereign people don’t need money.

I do as much as I can as a survivalist before prepper/hoarding.

I barter when possible.

Have used all sorts of money when I can’t make something on my own.

v4v work (labor) is mostly how things get "paid" for.

Yes I still do use shiny metal rocks and worthless paper.

let's be friends 😃

How much btc you could have had if not shitcoining? Do you know the figure? How do you cope with the fact you wont ever see it again?

I do not regret anything & I still hodl.

Money isn’t everything in life buddy.

Avoiding is also answer

If you really must know it would have been a few thousand btc

Biggest oof.

V4V communism works but not at scale not online.

Lol you guys & communism cracks me up.

The money is everything mentally is bud guys.

Money wasn’t always a thing.

Money was literally always a thing, just in different forms

I recommend you check out the BBC documentary miniseries "The ascent of money" for more info

Value in things has always been intrinsically placed upon items by the users

Yes money can be literally anything.

Anarcho-Communism.

La Conquête du Pain

The Conquest of Bread

"--an 1892 book by the Russian anarchist communist Peter Kropotkin. Originally written in French, it first appeared as a series of articles in the anarchist journal Le Révolté. It was first published in Paris with a preface by Élisée Reclus, who also suggested the title. Between 1892 and 1894, it was serialized in part in the London journal Freedom, of which Kropotkin was a co-founder."

The abolition of money, prices, and wage labor are central to anarchist communism. With the distribution of wealth being based on self-determined needs, people would be free to engage in whatever activities they found most fulfilling and would no longer have to engage in work for which they have neither the temperament nor the aptitude.

"No distinction can be drawn between the work of each man. Measuring the work by its results leads us to absurdity; dividing and measuring them by hours spent on the work also leads us to absurdity. One thing remains: put the needs above the works, and first of all recognize the right to live, and later on, to the comforts of life, for all those who take their share in production."

Kropotkin sketches a picture of what he feels an anarchist communist society could look like. He points to the huge levels of production that modern industrial society achieved in terms of food production, clothing production, and housing production, and he uses this as evidence of the feasibility of an anarchist communist society. More than enough of the essentials are produced for all people, Kropotkin argues; if they were only distributed properly, nobody would have any unmet needs. Kropotkin further argues that with the level of production output being so high people should not have to work more than five hours a day and they should be able to reduce that as much as possible, giving them free time for leisure, socialization, and to work on innovations that would reduce their labor.

"Motivation in a moneyless society would be found in the satisfaction of work, concern for the community, competition for prestige, and praise from other community members."

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"We want bread,

and roses, too."

Damnit I was front to steer away from that lmfao

It was mind-blowing for me to learn that my ideals aligned here.

"The revolution abolishes private ownership of the means of production and distribution, and with it goes capitalistic business. Personal possession remains only in the things you use. Thus, your watch is your own, but the watch factory belongs to the people. Land, machinery, and all other public utilities will be collective property, neither to be bought nor sold. Actual use will be considered the only title-not to ownership but to possession. The organization of the coal miners, for example, will be in charge of the coal mines, not as owners but as the operating agency. Similarly will the railroad brotherhoods run the railroads, and so on. Collective possession, cooperatively managed in the interests of the community, will take the place of personal ownership privately conducted for profit."

Crazy right

communism got a bad rap, lol

part of a 1000 year psy-op, it would seem

In my honest opinion, I think everyone only thinks, socialism & communism are horrible because of capitalism.

cro·ny cap·i·tal·ism

(noun) DEROGATORY

"an economic system characterized by close, mutually advantageous relationships between business leaders and government officials.

"the bank has strongly rejected accusations of crony capitalism"

Spitting coffee everywhere loling

the more I know,

the more i buy bitcoin,

it really is fuck-you money

few

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Very much agreed.

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Forgot to mention I should have been a 4th generation railroader but my father insisted that I didn’t.

I honor his wish still.

The Conquest of Bread