Probably the most important post I'll ever write on here.

Why I think that the "Great Taking" type scenario was written into law as a Strategic fallback, and not as a Primary Base-Case.

If you are unfamiliar with the book "The Great Taking":

- The book describes what David Rogers Webb calls "The Great Taking" - a systematic, global seizure of all collateralized assets through legal, technological, and financial mechanisms. In other words, you don't own the stuff in your brokerage account.

- All assets "in the system" (brokerage accounts, bank deposits, bond custodianship, mortgages, even most "gold ETFs") are structurally vulnerable to seizure via rehypothecation chain.

- This is enabled by the laws in EVERY country in the World (they were changed recently to allow for this global seizure type scenario).

- Only assets outside custody chains (physical, bearer-form, or strong self-custody digital like Bitcoin, Monero, physical gold in personal possession) are immune.

Of course, if a Great Taking type scenario takes place, assets like Bitcoin and Gold get revalued exponentially (10x–100x relative to collapsing seized assets).

Everything else = frozen, haircut, or outright transfer.

So why do I say "The Great Taking" is not the base case?

- Based on my research, I'd give it ~25–35% over the next 10-20 years. It's still far too high to dismiss.

- Mechanisms (UCC laws, rehypothecation structures, bail-in clauses, digital rails) already exist.

- Only trigger required: systemic crisis + narrative cover ("protect system stability / prevent contagion").

- However, if fiat sovereign debt spiral accelerates, I'd move my odds up to ~60-70% over the next 10-20 years.

- If global debt pyramids become visibly unserviceable, asset seizure (via collateral sweep) becomes the only way to reset without open default.

- Still, it is not the Primary Base-Case - The Controllers prefer gradual controlled capture (CBDCs + behavioral shaping + perpetual claims on labor/energy).

- It is the Strategic Fallback - If systemic control frays (currency collapse, capital flight, delegitimized political system), then seizure protocol is triggered as the emergency override.

- The fact it is legally embedded across all jurisdictions signals it was always intended as the last resort fail-safe - not daily operating mode.

- Bitcoin, Gold, land without liens (physical, bearer-form, or strong self-custody digital) are the true anti-fragile hedge here.

- Avoid: Leveraged assets, rehypothecated claims, pooled accounts (even "segregated" ones collapse in stress).

- Psychological edge: Most can't accept that "ownership" has already been redefined legally. They'll rationalize seizures as "temporary stabilizations".

- The Great Taking isn't a fringe hypothesis. It's already structurally embedded. The only question is trigger conditions.

- Everything in custody might get swept overnight. With narratives: "protect system", "fair distribution", "prevent collapse".

- Still my base case is: No outright seizure, but effective confiscation via inflation, negative rates, and behavioral CBDC restrictions.

Things get nuanced once you get into state-embedded equities (e.g. Palantir, Microsoft) in a Great Taking type scenario.

Technically, all stocks held through custodians, brokerages, and CSDs (DTCC, Euroclear, Clearstream, etc.) are legally collateralized and can be swept.

However, the Controllers usually do not "punish" their own instruments.

State-embedded companies are not "capital assets" in the same way as random ETFs. They are extensions of the state-control lattice.

Seizing their equity en masse would destabilize their role. Why would the Controllers burn the infrastructure they rely on?

Instead, these equities are more likely to be:

- Ring-fenced: carved out from seizure frameworks.

- Converted: forcibly shifted to "CBDC-denominated ledger shares". You still "own" them, but only inside the CBDC matrix.

- Protected selectively: insiders, elites, and aligned funds retain ownership; retail may be converted or frozen.

So - yes, they are technically seizable, but practically unlikely to be targeted, because they are the command system itself.

In summary, the full Great Taking type scenario is technically possible, legally enabled, but extremely risky. Requires near-perfect control of narratives + timing (crisis trigger + CBDC rollout + global harmonization). If mismanaged, triggers chaos -> loss of trust in state. Hence, fallback scenario if debt pyramid collapse outruns managed transition.

If you are very concerned about this type of scenario, you can explore Direct registration (if possible), transfer to Custodians Outside Seizure Jurisdictions, or long-term call options (which can be cash-settled in "new CBDC terms" instead of seizure).

But, in general, random S&P companies have higher seizure odds than State-embedded firms (which have the lowest odds of getting seized), in a Great Taking type scenario.

This doesn't make holders of State-embedded firms immune to seizure.

Let's look at Palantir as an example - arguably the most state-embedded company.

Immune archetypally -> Palantir itself will not be destroyed. Its contracts, revenues, and integration with the state guarantee survival.

Not immune retail-wise -> your access to PLTR shares can still be taken, frozen, converted.

In other words:

- The entity is immortal.

- Your claim on the entity is not. (Its only as safe as your custody arrangement).

So in the worst possible case scenario, the "Great Taking" doesn't eliminate Palantir - it just eliminates weakly-held claims to Palantir.

Alpha comes from mastering custody layers - not just asset selection.

The Controllers designed the game so that they keep the immortal entities while you keep the disposable claims.

The alpha is to invert that game as much as possible.

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It seems like the process will be more of a slow creep than a sudden event. Yes the rules are there to take everything in a disaster if need be, but slowly corralling ever more assets into State control doesn’t spook the sheep.

For example, take mortgage back securities in the US. ~90% of MBS is already owned or backstopped by the US government, but hardly anyone knows or cares. It’s confusing and normalized so…whatever, catch the game last night?

Here in Argentina we got "el corralito" in the early 2000. All my savings captured by the goverment. Since that time, never, never held any money im a bank anymore.

I also think that TgT is their last resort if CBDC re-managed debt doesn‘t work. So if i understood correctly you prepare for a CBDC-Matrix world. And you tell me you went from 95 to 15% in a matter of two weeks. That‘s some conviction. I guess it‘s not cash you‘re holding.

Not holding cash, I own Palantir and Microsoft and continue to do research.

As of now, 137 countries and currency unions, representing 98% of global GDP, are exploring Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs).

Among these, 72 countries are in advanced stages of development, pilot, or have launched their CBDCs.

The writing is on the wall. I am looked at as a crazy conspiracy theorist just because people usually discount things they don't want to be true.

I'll see what happens in the Bitcoin space re price action when core v30 comes out.

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In terms of investing, I am on both sides, with allocations correlated to each side's winning odds in my models.

In the end, I decided to not handicap myself based on ethics in my investments.

In terms of investments, being on the good side and being a loser is not something that appeals to me. I try to win at all costs.

At the time I wrote the post I did not own any stocks if that's what you mean.

I don‘t think you lied when writing your post. Just pointing out that you changed „sides“ quickly. But what you say sounds a lot like you. Rational.

"Master the custody layers" pithy, well put & good advice.

Surprised more bitcoiners (or people that count most of their net worth in custodial equities) aren't aware of the great taking

Is it even possible to hold physical stock certificates anymore?

Bearer instruments seem to be the way heading forward regardless

Yes, many Bitcoiners discount these types of things because they seem too outlandish.

As far as I am aware, you can hold physical stock certificates for certain companies only, but I have not done much research on the topic yet.

You can sometimes still achieve direct ownership with paper stock certificates or direct registration with transfer agents.

There's this thing called Direct Registration System (DRS):

- For firms that allow it (e.g., GameStop via Computershare, but rare for gov-embedded firms - which is what I own). Removes the broker, places you on issuer ledger.

- But just as an example, Palantir doesn’t currently offer retail DRS widely.

ChatGPT is surprisingly accurate on these types of topics. It is definitely something worth researching further.

Of course, they are going to have made physical ownership quite annoying most likely, but getting robbed is also annoying.