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Posted this on Twitter, less applicable here, but maybe useful as a way of finding common ground with people who for whatever reason are stuck in outmoded worldviews.

I suspect more people than we realize are silently going along to get along but are not remotely on board (or in denial) of what’s really going on. Anyway, this was the post:

*Imagine a lot of smart liberals are realizing it's time to fold a bad hand now.*

*You are not pro-war, pro-censorship, pro pharmaceutical conglomerates, jailing and assassinating political rivals, biological males destroying girls sports.*

*You were for the regular working person, skeptical of the corporate media, defenders of free speech.*

*This is not what you signed up for. This is not what you're about. I know a lot of you well, and this phony, dishonest cabal of oligarchs isn't aligned with your values at all.*

*You do not owe this metastasized version of your former party blind allegiance. They lied to your face about Biden's dementia, the lab leak, the safety and efficacy of the shot.*

*They are not looking out for you. The incentives you had to go along are insufficient. The lies are too big now, the absurdity too out in the open.*

*Opt out. Leave. Fold. Fight for your real values not these astroturfed perversions.*

pseudo~u *likes nostr already* 1y ago

I think most people who say/said they subscribe to those things only did so because that's what they thought they had to do to follow the herd. They actually couldn't care less about any of it, or anything except their personal gratification and that mainly means following the herd.

If they were going to truly wake up I think they'd have done so by now (and it would require them to care about things other than following the herd in the first place).

But the minority of us who are awake, and care about reality etc, are the only possible source of human progress, courage, strength, ingenuity, compassion, integrity. So while I am pessimistic that the sheep will change I think it's inevitable that one day they will follow us.. 😁

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Chris Liss 1y ago

I think there are a lot of half awake people who realize something is deeply wrong, but are pushed by incentives not to awaken fully. My strategy is to push in the other direction, make them realize they are making a bad bet. People don’t respond to moral chastising, but they do respond to being shown what they’re doing is bad for them, counter to their aims of fitting in, not getting hassled.

pseudo~u *likes nostr already* 1y ago

Yes, that's the way to let them see there's something different they can follow.

And I think people are programmed to a certain amount to at least find it cool to disrespect authority as long as they feel safe.

One advantage we have is there are so many ways into it. Eg I am talking to an old friend who already gets the trans stuff, and also Epstein. It's then much easier to show him that if the media are lying to him and trying to control him about those issues they can't be trusted on any others.

Chris Liss 1y ago

Right you always start with common ground and build from there. I think it’s easy to write everyone off as brainwashed or whatever, but I think only 10-20 percent are truly brainwashed, and most people are just responding to incentives which are changeable. Even better is if it dawns on them that the highest incentive is to sense-make for oneself.