so bitch at NVK
I agree about Coinkite fwiw
and Primal
but nuance is hard
and Matt's tradeoffs make sense.
even if I (or you) wouldn't do things the same way.
Discussion
You just proved to me and everyone else you're a fool.
I was actually cornered by NVK and Odell IRL about this at a BTC conference.
They tried to use social coercion to get me to bend the knee.
Weird how coordinated it felt.
sounds like a you problem bro
i agree its a legit grievance
but you've obviously given up being rational about it.
Lmfao okay now I'm just assuming you're an Odell alt account 🤣🫣
No, I think ShiShi is not the problem here.
Them not funding true FOSS HWW is the problem. Incentives matter. Always.
Sure, they not obliged to. but then they should be clear and say that.
They chose to start a VC and can back whoever they want 🤷🏽♂️
& I can choose to champion against their corrupting VC money which agreed to this move as it happened simultaneously.
I know that. The point of commenting on odells thread is for the rest of the plebs to realize that his coinkite products are not the FOSS we should all be aspiring to use. And has a massive honeypot risk.
he's pretty clearly not open to other ideas except what hes set his mind on.
and yeah, from our perspective it doesn't look fair. just saying you cant lay all that at matts door. hes just the most visible.
also
fuck Coinkite. I will never buy their products.
nuance.
I'm just curious, do you fully understand how successful I've been so far?!
I was one of the only MFers w a decent Twitter following to alert everyone to the pitfalls we will face in the future if Open Source isn't championed with respect to holding our keys.
A lot dont care bc they have idols in Bitcoin land they use as a compass or "expert". W.e they say is good.
But a shit load of people went away and continue to do so that otherwise would've been Coinkite customers.
I've been doing this for years now, why would I continue if I was making no headway?
You say I can't blame Matt, but fail to describe why he's not responsible.
Pointing to a BoD doesn't make any sense, fuck em all 🤣🤝
Matt is directly profiting from this paradigm.
Could care less that he's a "nice guy".
nice story bro
we all make sacrifices. yours aren't special.
No one said I was special, but people who get absolutely owned in a debate / conversation use this tactic to shield their egos.
The proof of my work is in the #SeedSigner s in people's hands.
I need no benefit outside of proliferating Open Source.
Kanzan, why are you deliberately taking the conversation off the original point? You don't need to make explanations for Odell. He can speak up for himself. This is the message spreading.
We should all slay our heroes early. We all gonna do it eventually.
now I also think you are Odell's alt account.
I'm interested in learning. Can you point me to FOSS hardware providers that have been able to sustain their businesses long term -- talking at least 5-10 years+. Thanks in advance.
Signing devices you mean?
Any hardware company really.
I think there is a significant distinction between being FOSS as a software company versus when hardware is in the equation. Completely different businesses when you have to figure in R&D, production, logistics, etc.
You know very well customers have been confused on this issue.
It's also the way market share was built.
Go look at the old Coinkite website, they couldn't plaster the walls with FOSS logos everywhere.
Even NVKs tweets were always about their committment to FOSS.
Such a joke 🤣
Coinkite you fucking twat, NVK said sales were always climbing and nothing to do with the move.
He hates foundation passport & wanted to and I quote "put them out of business then I go back to FOSS".
Do you really think coinkite wouldnt be killing still it if they left it FOSS?
Are you braindead?
Trezor is FOSS!!!!
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
I'm not obsessed with this which is why I asked.
Last time I'll be interacting with you. Have a good one.
You didn't seem genuine and definitely sarcastic - if I misread that, that's on me...
Sorry that you get offended so easily, but I can't help that.
Your ego got pinched and you're trying to fit in I get it, but my style of interaction in Bitcoin land is adversarial.
If you don't see value in what I write here just mute me.
What's the problem?
*Adderall vibe intensifies*
LMFAO 😂
Take shots at my persona, but not the topic at hand.
Take the L fam!!!
dude asked a question and you jumped on him and called him names.
it was clear your aren't rational about this subject from the start 🙄
Lmao bruh 🤣
When your bravado is that high, and you're that wrong...you're gonna get embarrassed in this type of argument.
If you can't handle it go say PV somewhere else 🤣
nostr:nprofile1qqs9500z3l7sn46sdnls5fnjm0d3lqmrq7707qshes2y7j8pnm4rllcpzdmhxue69uhhqatjwpkx2urpvuhx2ue0lgtw53 is a FOSS Hardware company (to my knowledge).
(disclaimer: I don't understand everything in this thread, I'm relatively new)
Could you share why you think it is a "legit grievance"?
Sure
while Matt does say "i dont think it was the right call" (to change to CC license away from FOSS),
he continues to endorse their products.
I assume he really feels they're the best solution for private key storage.
but meanwhile, Seedsigner is feeling shutout and NVK is acting like an ass.
and there's no question the Passport has a better UX.
those project are really foss
so why is Coinkite getting funding?
SS isn't the same tradeoffs as CC
so its not a fair comparison.
but taken as a whole, I dont like it and think it's fair to call it out.
