2023 Prediction: >90% relays will require some sort of payment.

The only relays whose incentives are aligned with their users are those of paid relays. Value for value.

Free relays will have to find other incentives: donations, sponsors, advertisers aka not you.

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I'll probably be able to keep the public damus relay alive via damus premium. Maybe clients can sponsor public relays this way.

I volunteer as tribute lol. I do enjoy running the relay for fun but it would be rad to get paid for it…. I enjoy the challenge of trying to block spam without a paywall so I would prefer not to add one.

You're a braver man than I. 4K paywall in https://nostr.naut.social mainly to limit expense exposure and reduce chances of exceeding resources without warning. Right now, sending all to Turkey anyway.

It is most normal to be paid for services rendered. relay's continuous growth is an important part of the development of the Nostr ecosystem. Adequate profit is an important stimulus for the development of relays. It is not a good situation to run a relay just for volunteering or trying or for fun.

People payed premium for the checkmark ...

It’s insane how one would pay multiples for a check mark but not the relay storing all their notes. 🤯

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I've payed several relays. I dunno what's the problem. Its a few sats.

Big time 🤙

It is most normal to be paid for services rendered. relay's continuous growth is an important part of the development of the Nostr ecosystem. Adequate profit is an important stimulus for the development of relays. It is not a good situation to run a relay just for volunteering or trying or for fun.

現在ぼくは15個の有料リレーと1つの無料リレーです。スパムは全くありません🤙pv

2023年 予測:>90%のリレーはある種の支払を要求します。

ユーザーがインセンティブを揃えている唯一のリレーは、有料のリレーです。 価値の価値のための価値。

無料のリレーは、寄付、スポンサー、広告主などの他のインセンティブを見つける必要があります。

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有料リレーを使う時 どちらが良いかどちらが悪いか知りますか?

僕はglobal をみなければ スパムも全くありません。😂

今のところグローバルフィードがなければ新しい人やノートを発見することができません。フォローしている人だけに閉ざされるのではなく有料リレーと無料リレーを組み合わせてグローバルに少しずつ開かれる必要があると思います🖖

Nice, I’ve got about 6 paid relays. Any benefit to adding more?

メリットがあるのかわかりません。私はnostrgramが対応しているリレーを追加してみただけです。どうなるのか試してみたかっただけ🤙

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Gotcha. Thanks for the list. I might add a few more just to support the paid relays.

pv🖖

I do favour this approach - it is one that has been systematically avoided by top-down VC funding since hashcash was invented but value-for-value does indeed seem to the the right approach - especially now that we have lightning for micropayments.

行为(Behavior)是社交网络最基本组成单元,

会有按闪电聪(Sats)每次行为(Behavior)付费的客户端和中继器出现。

让行为(Behavior)计算自己,让社交网络里行为(Behavior)自由流动,如此构建自发秩序,符合能量最低(熵减)原则。

面对若海啸般垃圾信息攻击,Nostr协议生态像像生命一样不断进化而找到新的出路。

Behavior is the most basic component of a social network.

There will be clients and repeaters that pay per action of Sats.

Let Behavior calculate itself and let Behavior flow freely in social networks, so as to build spontaneous order, in line with the principle of lowest energy (entropy reduction).

In the face of tsunami-like spam attacks, the Nostr protocol ecosystem continues to evolve like life to find new ways out.

#ValueForBehavior

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