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I can tell you, working at a legal aid nonprofit in a blue state under the Trump admin has been some of the most stressful and trying work I’ve been a part of in my entire career.

We’ve seen many clients on visas and green cards get swept up in raids. ICE hiding in court basements. Families separated from children. Legal immigrant communities terrified to travel or seek healthcare.

It’s been super, super dark. I’m literally talking about legal immigrants with no criminal records, not to mention those on paths to citizenship that now are in danger of being sent back home to war and gang plagued neighborhoods that threaten their lives before coming here.

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yaazer 9mo ago

This is sad state of affairs. It was inevitable that these raids would and up impacting rule abiding folk. Didn't think it would happen this quickly.

4a647543... 9mo ago

Thank you for providing this view of what is going on since I feel like nostr can be a bit one sided at times.

Trey Walsh 9mo ago

There are lots of articles and opinions out there on it!

I’m here to tell you so much is unreported…even with the scary reports. Because nonprofits and state officials are fearful of sharing too much, because they don’t want further backlash or scrutiny on their communities. They know Trump admin/ICE/DOJ is watching and waiting

Digital Panhandler 9mo ago

I voted for this ✅

Purp1eOne 9mo ago

If I check your timeline will I find any comments about the damage illegals have caused US citizens? The lives lost? The lives changed? The crimes these people have committed on US citizens? For some reason one side always ignores that part. They hardly ever talk about on the favorite biased media outlets and its almost as if they want to think that side of the story never happens.

stupleb 9mo ago

Why are ICE arresting legal immigrants and citizenship applicants?

Trey Walsh 9mo ago

False profiling and indiscriminate roundups (hypothetically catching criminals, which is very good! while also scooping up legal, lawful immigrants with no criminal record on faulty or no evidence and ignoring courts, not seeking trial). Sending them to detention centers or deporting first, while lawyers scramble after the fact to find these people.

stupleb 9mo ago

They don't have ID? Not that I support anything in particular or am advancing any particular opinion, but as a legal immigrant myself I'd just show the evidence of what I am and be done with the interaction. If I didn't have the ID or the evidence, I'd be an illegal immigrant by default, and while I wouldn't be too pleased. I suppose I could have lost my ID, but then I'd have the supporting evidence of my embassy appointment for a new one... A slow process for sure because it's a third world country. But all the same.

karo 9mo ago

I mean, if they're so sloppy to be scooping up illegal and legal immigrants together, it seems doubtful that they will give a crap about your lawful documentation in the heat of the moment.

that's just me being cynical but it's probably not far from reality.

stupleb 9mo ago

That's why I doubt they are truly legal, which was my point I was trying to be polite and delicate about... Because if ICE are mass detaining green card holders, tourists, people on business trips, Canadians going shopping and Indian coders... why stop there? Whole not just deport US citizens to Zimbabwe for fun?

Trey Walsh 9mo ago

Lol…that is absolutely coming of political enemies who are citizens but will be called “terrorists.”

stupleb 9mo ago

I always say, as the world burns I hope it will at least be funny. If it absolutely has to happen, I'd like to see footage of confused American boomers being dropped off in downtown Harare, and find out how they get on.

ede3d957... 9mo ago

The moment people introduced the term "terrorist" in 2001 it was clear thatvghe logical extension of the term will include everybody.

What's stunning is that most people have not seen this coming. Which makes me doubt the enacted intelligence of our human race. Those capable of enacting intelligence are few and easy to contain.

A human tragedy? Or business as usual?

karo 9mo ago

your guess is as good as mine. neither of us really know what's going on because we're not experiencing it, nor are even adjacent.

ede3d957... 9mo ago

It's just the prelude to a full blown crisis, where everybody gets scrutinised for everything.

Big surveillance data meeting AI in a Minority Report scenario.

Encrypt everything you fools!

Globe99 9mo ago

I mean you can see in the specific context of the Columbia student's detainment, an attempt to score political points with a targeted campaign of intimidation.

The "why" is the exercise of power, pure and simple. It's the same "why" as family separation. To inflict terror.

stupleb 9mo ago

The kid who protested for Palestine on a student visa? Didn't really follow it, but it seems ridiculous for a country like he US to deport foreigners for exercising free speech.

I'm talking about something else with Trey though. I haven't heard of any kind of systematic detainment or deportation of green card holders or tourists.

Globe99 9mo ago

"The kid" has a green card

stupleb 9mo ago

OK, great. We probably agree on this though, and that the US or anywhere else shouldn't be ruled by proxy from Tel Aviv.

If you were to ask me, I would say that someone with permanent residency should be able to engage in civic life like a citizen. I'd probably allow for them to vote in municipal elections, for them to remain residents despite minor crimes, be that speeding tickets of disruption from protests. (Whereas I would probably say temporary residency shouldn't allow for those things, at least not repeatedly)

But again, we were not talking about targeting of individuals by Israeli Governor of the US in the White House... I was talking about ICE intentionally or indiscriminately sweeping up anyone and everywhere to anywhere without checking who they are. I'd bet only illegal immigrants are being deported en masse... surely it would be pointless to deport someone who could fly back in the next day with their valid visa after a free day trip to somewhere warm. I suggest Trey is referring to people who are illegally in the country, know they are there illegally but are actively working on ways to be granted some legal status before they are caught.

Globe99 9mo ago

Well I don't know what your specific position is w/r/t counseling people experiencing these anxieties, but I would hope that you're keeping them well-informed of their 1st, 4th, 5th, and (quite frankly) 2nd Amendment rights.

On the digital front, there are tools like Signal that all "normies" should be using. Also EFF has good resources on this: https://www.eff.org/document/eff-border-search-pocket-guide

Trey Walsh 9mo ago

We are yes, as well as practical recommendations know violations of laws are occurring

Mr Meadow 9mo ago

Thanks for this. When the media reports it, I figure it’s not true and I don’t know you but I’m willing to admit it as a data point into my perspective because NOSTR.

Not to flip it to blaming the other side but this is the indirect impact of opening your borders. It muddies the waters and impacts good people.

Stacking Functions 9mo ago

Can confirm that my neighbor from Honduras got picked up at a taco truck and has been in detention since. They released his wife and kids but kept him since he had a DUI, was deported and obviously re-entered (at least 10 years ago).

He has a business that was growing- up to 3 trucks now.

Certainly not ms-13 or something

Not great Bob