Why are ICE arresting legal immigrants and citizenship applicants?
Discussion
False profiling and indiscriminate roundups (hypothetically catching criminals, which is very good! while also scooping up legal, lawful immigrants with no criminal record on faulty or no evidence and ignoring courts, not seeking trial). Sending them to detention centers or deporting first, while lawyers scramble after the fact to find these people.
They don't have ID? Not that I support anything in particular or am advancing any particular opinion, but as a legal immigrant myself I'd just show the evidence of what I am and be done with the interaction. If I didn't have the ID or the evidence, I'd be an illegal immigrant by default, and while I wouldn't be too pleased. I suppose I could have lost my ID, but then I'd have the supporting evidence of my embassy appointment for a new one... A slow process for sure because it's a third world country. But all the same.
I mean, if they're so sloppy to be scooping up illegal and legal immigrants together, it seems doubtful that they will give a crap about your lawful documentation in the heat of the moment.
that's just me being cynical but it's probably not far from reality.
That's why I doubt they are truly legal, which was my point I was trying to be polite and delicate about... Because if ICE are mass detaining green card holders, tourists, people on business trips, Canadians going shopping and Indian coders... why stop there? Whole not just deport US citizens to Zimbabwe for fun?
Lol…that is absolutely coming of political enemies who are citizens but will be called “terrorists.”
I always say, as the world burns I hope it will at least be funny. If it absolutely has to happen, I'd like to see footage of confused American boomers being dropped off in downtown Harare, and find out how they get on.
The moment people introduced the term "terrorist" in 2001 it was clear thatvghe logical extension of the term will include everybody.
What's stunning is that most people have not seen this coming. Which makes me doubt the enacted intelligence of our human race. Those capable of enacting intelligence are few and easy to contain.
A human tragedy? Or business as usual?
your guess is as good as mine. neither of us really know what's going on because we're not experiencing it, nor are even adjacent.
I mean you can see in the specific context of the Columbia student's detainment, an attempt to score political points with a targeted campaign of intimidation.
The "why" is the exercise of power, pure and simple. It's the same "why" as family separation. To inflict terror.
The kid who protested for Palestine on a student visa? Didn't really follow it, but it seems ridiculous for a country like he US to deport foreigners for exercising free speech.
I'm talking about something else with Trey though. I haven't heard of any kind of systematic detainment or deportation of green card holders or tourists.
"The kid" has a green card
OK, great. We probably agree on this though, and that the US or anywhere else shouldn't be ruled by proxy from Tel Aviv.
If you were to ask me, I would say that someone with permanent residency should be able to engage in civic life like a citizen. I'd probably allow for them to vote in municipal elections, for them to remain residents despite minor crimes, be that speeding tickets of disruption from protests. (Whereas I would probably say temporary residency shouldn't allow for those things, at least not repeatedly)
But again, we were not talking about targeting of individuals by Israeli Governor of the US in the White House... I was talking about ICE intentionally or indiscriminately sweeping up anyone and everywhere to anywhere without checking who they are. I'd bet only illegal immigrants are being deported en masse... surely it would be pointless to deport someone who could fly back in the next day with their valid visa after a free day trip to somewhere warm. I suggest Trey is referring to people who are illegally in the country, know they are there illegally but are actively working on ways to be granted some legal status before they are caught.