I thought Bitcoiners in general understood Nostr already, but I was miserably wrong: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2023-November/022141.html
At least Andrew Chow recognizes he didn't look much into it and is clearly speaking from first impressions gotten from microblogging clients.
Interesting.
The fascinating thing to me is that mailing lists are the a absolute worst. Hard to read, follow chains, one big thread, etc.. get used to them, but a relic of a past era.
Whats there to understand about a platform that lets anyone read other ppls opinions thoughts without verifying who they are?
Frankly, I also think Nostr isn't ready to replace email lists yet.
I agree we don't have the software ready right now, but that's not what he is saying.
Just recreate the bitcointalk forums UI with a nostr backend. :-) make those note kinds specific to that platform, so they don’t spam other clients with kind1 notes.
If they’re willing put in the work to moderate spam for their mailing list, why couldn’t they do the same for a relay dedicated to these bitcoin talk forum posts? 🤔
Yes, right? But I think he just doesn't know.
Major core devs could list on their profile which “bitcointalkforum relays” they trust to moderate and filter spam.
Downloading forum posts from multiple spam-filtering relays seems smarter than only downloading from one relay/only relying on the Linux foundation to do it. Trusted third parties either way; why not reduce the central points of failure? 🤷♂️
I agree. That's the way to do it.
Was chatting with my friend earlier today about how having an email is the atomic unit of the Internet. That’s where you begin, so you can sign into anything else.
With #Nostr, your key & social identity is the atomic unit… so you can sign into everything else with it.
The guys on the mailing list are upset about not wanting to change away from email, but I think this future is much more promising… it’s an entire change in philosophy they just don’t understand yet.
Once note searching and more advanced relays emerge, it’d be wise to create a good bitcointalk forum whether they support it or not.
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His questions seem genuine. How would you answer them?
which part of his assessment do you disagree with and why? what exists today on nostr that proves him wrong?
Why not start autoposting this to a nostr npub 😜
Nostr is ready for main list?
I think not, the Bitcoin mailing list gas too much spam, it would bring Nostr down.
The farmer won't eat what he doesn't know
Mailing lists on nostr, if they really want to mimic mailing lists (which I think they should do better, but if), can use the inbox model and messages deposited into people's inboxes just like email does, with subject tags. And some client manages the mailing list, you message it to sign up, etc.
But as I said, I think forums on nostr can be better than email mailing lists and shouldn't do that. They should be more like communities instead.
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So, we just need a nostr client that includes a gpg sig on the content so they can loose all the keys they want..
Yeah, they really really love their old magic PGP.
Which, by the way, has delegated and revoked keys without centralization, some will claim.
Yep, how fun would that be you could use any nostr key, you could maybe create a new key each time or whatever and have the gpg signature following up like a white hot neck beard rage machine. Indestructible. Then CNN will be all up in nostr like oh shit what did the core team note today?!
