For those interested, I stand by my position on hate speech, but earlier in the hearing there were posts by this person encouraging people to smash the hotel in question which is probably actionable even in the united states:

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Jordan-Parlour.-Media-Posts.-Final.pdf

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Thanks for clarifying. I read the report and he was inciting violence and attacks.

Ya that's unnacceptable. But there are other examples where there is no incitment and people getting jailtime, which is fucked. This video is misleading in that sense.

Ya that's unnacceptable. But there are other examples where there is no incitment and people getting jailtime, which is fucked. This video is misleading in that sense.

How much jail time do the politicians get when one of the people they let into these communities turns out to be a child rapist?

the post got six likes

Yes, I get it, and the sentence should reflect whether it actually precipitated any actual harm or violence, but if I go into the street and start chanting "burn this building fuck these people burn this building..."etc. I can and should be arrested even if no one gives a shit I'm saying that.

There’s a big gulf between β€œcan” and β€œshould.”

Yes, I get it, and the sentence should reflect whether it actually precipitated any actual harm or violence, but if I go into the street and start chanting "burn this building fuck these people burn this building..."etc. I can and should be arrested even if no one gives a shit I'm saying that.

did he actually β€˜smash the hotel’

No but it was a literal incitement to violence which is its own crime, separate from the conduct of the crime. I don’t know if it would be prosecuted in the states but its different than the quotations from the video which was much less.

giving someone 20 months in jail for a shitpost is a slippery slope

I think I addressed the sentencing issue already above and I agree.

If that hotel were housing child rapists, I'd want to shut it down too.