Nostr Web Client

Hm. Seems a little disingenuous.

You mentioned 7 days ago you downloaded the WoS app, and you received $0.02 the following day. But you’ve made multiple mentions of how you do not favor zaps.

So for you to make some claim that “I’m going away for a while” after only having a lightning wallet for a week is….comical.

Seems like you’re desperate to be heard in a community that does not favor your opinion.

Twizzay 2y ago 💬 2

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I wanted to give zaps an honest try.

But after only a week of usage my opinion only grows stronger.

I feel like zaps are keeping me from making deeper connections. It feels a lot like reddit karma. With all of the same problems.

I found that I kept coming back to the app to see if anyone had zapped me. Not to see if I had any new replies or to meet any new people.

At the end of the day, it seems like we are paying each other for friendships and I believe that is unhealthy.

Relationships should trump everything else on a social platform. “Award systems” that have intrinsic value pollute online environments.

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Twizzay 2y ago

FWIW I AM desperate to be heard. I feel like this is a pretty valid concern. I would love to create a discussion around it to see if anyone can offer any solid reasons for why zaps should stick around.

I am willing to allow someone to change my mind.

SGT.FISH 2y ago 💬 2

Zaps having a "economic" effect is more of showcase of people actually valueing your input be it a funny meme or any other form someone else may appreciate and it can not be faked a 1000 zaps say a lot more than a 1000 likes

That all being said this is my personal view and i think if you want to build connections by interactions thats perfectly valid its opt in.

As to a a larger view i think the incentive on nostr is to be kind helpfull funny the zaps add to that compared to facebook twitter etc where you are rewarded for inducing rage and debate on every little thing since enagement nunber now pushes you up

Hope this shines some light on my view

Either way i hope you do find what you look for here

Twizzay 2y ago

The concept of unfake-able engagement makes sense to me. I don't think it's bullet-proof, but I definitely understand the notion behind that idea.

Helps weed out the bots.

I just don't know about introducing money into social interactions. I think money detracts from the value of other forms of engagement. A better way to show someone you value their post might be to quote-share it with some verbal accolades. In some ways, I think that could show more support than a zap.

Never forget that Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, Youtube et. al were all pretty cool places before advertising started happening on the platforms.

I fear that zaps might turn all of us into “advertisers” in one way or another. And thats why I bring all of this up.

SGT.FISH 2y ago 💬 1

Its super early on and its a whole new dynamic in social media that is untested to me it whould be logical if it hits a critical mass zapps will be more used for educational content porn books creative stuff. Whatever people deem valueable over memes and connecting will be done with repost quotes or reactions

Nostr is so much more than a twitter clone

Not gonna pretend i know the future just excited about it i appreciate your thoughts it gives me things to think about

Twizzay 2y ago

I wouldn't say this is completely untrod territory.

Helladoge.com is a mastodon instance that rewards users with doge coin. It federated with the larger Fediverse for a while and was a pretty fun place. Recently, the founder, Mahbod Moghadam, who created genius.com has disappeared, and it has become a zombie instance to my knowledge.

OnlyFans is another place where you can pay users for “social” interactions. Patreon and other such services come to mind as well.

Obviously, #nostr is different from all of these, but these are the case studies that come to mind when I think about integrating money into the sociality of a platform.

It's obvious to me that nostr is doing something entirely different from Twitter. I think that Bluesky or Twt2 are probably closer to being 'twitter clones' than nostr is.

I'm just wary of the direction we are heading. I want nostr to succeed too, and I am worried about what this might do to us.