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So on one hand, the risk of fumbling some key liberties to still have a country, and on the other hand, a complete communist reset of a America that *won't* dispense with any liberties?
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MAHDOOD 6d ago

You just admitted to giving up some liberties. And Ben Franklin would say you don’t deserve either security or freedom. That means you are un-American 🤷‍♂️

The other option is to say say fuck the government like the founding fathers did, then defend the only borders that matter: the ones around your property. If everyone just worried about protecting their own property, illegals wouldn’t have anywhere to go to. They come here because this government gives them resources: housing, healthcare, food stamps. Yeah no shit they’re gonna come here. Why wouldn’t they? It would be retarded not to. If the government didn’t exist, they’d have to come here and earn everything for themselves. And they’d have to do it peacefully or get pumped full of lead. Your problems are not illegals. Your problem is the socialist government that is redistributing wealth across all aspects of society. Through taxes and money printing.

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vinney...axkl 6d ago

private property solves literally everything

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vinney...axkl 6d ago

the question becomes: does The State somehow have a legitimate claim to the entire physical territory it says belongs to it? (in which case, we'd be sort of "tenants" residing under an agreement, and breaking that agreement or plotting to undermine it would be morally problematic)

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Laser 6d ago

"Just admitted to giving up liberties"

What kind of gotcha game are you playing? Either we resist the Bolshevik color revolution or we simply give them the government.

Do you honestly think the latter outcome is superior?

Not playing the board = playing the board. There is no way to opt out of communism.

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Laser 6d ago

Vinny the question is whether a population can claim a physical territory by way of their representative government. The answer is yes, so long as they can defend it.