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Two $bn businesses here.

1. Video streaming sales. Whatnot ($5bn GMV), Tiktok Shop ($50bn GMV). Fast growth commission on sale model. But what is it? Live stream discovery and chat (NIP-53) and ecommerce (NIP-99). Build on Nostr rails solves chicken-and-egg, reduces time to market, and then pitch it to Whatnot users who can just use it, without knowing how Nostr works. I am building this with nostr:nprofile1qqsgthcq5tm2jxz9x4xg6tvlh26qq2actdpztwh2kc86lvjc03gr36spzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtckgrenr

2. ERP with workplace chat. Slack (aq by Salesforce for $27bn). SaaS MRR model. But what is it? A workplace identity (NIP-01) and SSO (NIP-42&98) system with chat and where data can move between silos (on Nostr!). Compete with other ERP and workforce systems on two key principles 1) interoperable with vast open source ecosystem for free. 2) no platform lock in ever, take all your data and leave whenever you want.

There are more. These bones are great. Just need businesses on them.
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Garbage nsec 2mo ago

This is pie in the sky stuff. Like when olas beta launched and you had people saying nostr was the next instagram.

What slack offers businesses now is utterly incomparable to what any nostr slack clone offers now or can offer in the future. The same is true for say Okta.

It's about nibbling around the edges and solving problems that nostr can actually solve, now today. And not mentioning nostr. And soft forking it. And all this in the context of solutions where nostr's architecture offers some explicit advantage outside of some [music] future vision.

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Rod 2mo ago 💬 1

Well I agree to focus on Nostr's points of leverage, and not needing to name Nostr at the time you try to cross the chasm. But, I don't see any reason to pull punches, so if you're not pointing yourself at a $bn+ competitor incumbent then I would say you're aiming small. The benefit of aiming big instead is you're not taking any business model risk, you get to simply copy and incumbent and be a fast follower riding better rails.

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Garbage nsec 2mo ago

Think big never hurts, but when you look at what Okta alone does, for IAM and the rest, a nostr equivalent (if you want to call it that) offers like 1% of that (and maybe with millions in investment in a nostr-based Okta then 5%). Sure with nostr you get bonus things that Okta can't do, but the things you have to give give up are non-starters for business.

The same for slack, nostr is just not an architectural basis for a piece of software that can do what Slack does, and giving up these things that Slack does again is a non-starter. Nostr at best can augment these platforms by filling in certain gaps or serving certain niche demographics.

For a reality check, the closest thing to Slack on nostr is chachi.chat.