Perhaps my confusion stems from your linking of values to achievements over adversity.

Can’t we also point to the goodness (or otherwise) of a concept through other means such as

-visceral reactions

-thought experiments

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Interesting thought.

On an individual level, based on inherited morals or moral foundations. Yes, perhaps.

On a societal level of a people, I don't think so. Morality comes from what has been overcome.

Anything else would not be rooted in life, but fiction driven by fear and greed.

I don't believe in non-functional fiction.