Why confusing?
Discussion
Perhaps my confusion stems from your linking of values to achievements over adversity.
Can’t we also point to the goodness (or otherwise) of a concept through other means such as
-visceral reactions
-thought experiments
Interesting thought.
On an individual level, based on inherited morals or moral foundations. Yes, perhaps.
On a societal level of a people, I don't think so. Morality comes from what has been overcome.
Anything else would not be rooted in life, but fiction driven by fear and greed.
I don't believe in non-functional fiction.