Welcome to the conversation. You're late and confused so allow me to catch you up.

A lot of people on NOSTR are apparently idiots when it comes to logic and language so let me explicitly lay out my position:

I'm not anti-marriage.

I'm not anti-children.

I'm not anti-family.

The original claim that HODL made was "Marriage and family is essential for a full and happy life."

Paraphrasing the claim into If-Then statemene:

IF a person is to live a full and happy life, THEN that person must live a married life and build a family'.

That claim is false. For one thing, happiness is subjective. As an example, masochists exist and what gives masochists happiness, if delivered to non-masochists, would yield the opposite of happiness. I'm not a masochist but I can understand how one-size-fits-all doesn't fly merely as a result of that one example.

There are people who are contending with wartime injuries, workplace injuries, psychological traumas, childhood abuse, and straight up sterility that might prevent them from having kids. Not every being is meant to reproduce.

The reason I fired a shot at HODL is because his statement was incredibly cruel to people who, for reasons beyond their control, cannot have children, even though they would love to have children. I'm thinking about them and how they would feel reading HODL's post. He's an asshole pumping his own bags trying to seek validation from a bunch of morons online because despite his successes, he's still got a huge hole in his life that he doesn't know how to fill. Maybe if he wasn't such a fake Christian, that hole would fill.

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You are a racist 🤣

Schools need to take a much more significant

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Schools need to take a much more foremost approach to understanding the potential malbehaviors that can surface from herd mentality. In short: too large a herd can possibly lead to --> too much attention --> too much validation --> "I can never be wrong" --> "I am likely smarter than most" --> lack of understanding or indifference regarding others' perspectives and experience

Speaking about the American public school system, that was brought to the US by Horace Mann from Prussia. The Prussian education model was essentially an NPC factory. The goal was to produce graduates who were optimally suited for government clerkships, military service, or factory work, and all graduates would be of the same general opinion on all matters of import from that day and age.

Schools teach people what to think, not how to think and that's why the internet is a shitshow of the blind leading the blind.

And here we are, still convinced, that a nearly two century-old "education" system is the best way to create a happy life. No wonder so few lack effective critical thinking calabilities. I am VERY happy to see homeschooling becoming a more prominent approach, though.

I used to teach critical thinking and math to students of all ages at a supplemental learning center for years.

My students won awards at national math and critical thinking test competitions every year in increasing quantities.

Other than the students who earned medals, all of my students, as a whole, outperformed both national and international averages every year in increasingly larger margins each year.

Our learning center was the exact opposite of the Prussian model. We didn't treat our students in a one-size-fits-all way. We neurologically profiled each of our students to inform our efforts to lovingly tailor the curriculum and our interactions to each unique individual in ways best suited for their development and success.

Do you still keep in contact with the center? I'm only asking because I'm curious if the educational quality has stayed the same, degraded, or has perhaps improved. Sometimes it degrades when a larger number students begin attending. Not always, of course.

My kids attend a co-op that uses a unit study-based curricula system. In the usage of neurological profiling per individual student, it's very similar to what you described.

That center no longer exists. The director shut it down over a decade ago.

There was a non-compete agreement.

After the non-compete agreement's period had elapsed, a new center was opened.

I've helped out there a few times but that was years ago.

As far as I know, the director is still excellent at diagnosing, profiling, and teaching when it comes to students but the director has other issues (emotional, political, social, and financial issues to name a few) that compel me to avoid the new center.

You're right that scaling was a major issue with which we had to contend. The scaling requires high quality teachers who are well trained, observant, and insightful. Obviously people like that are not typically interested in working for $15/hour with no benefits. That meant we were stuck trying to develop talented high schoolers to serve as classroom instructors which worked but, understandably, led to significant rates of employee turnover which means new trainees and more time sunk into training them every few years.

I had to look it up. It's referred to as "Illusory Superiority". Too many influencers, like him, display these behavioral characteristics.

the tone of it is the problem. encouraging it, saying it's good, that's fine. saying it's bad if you don't? not without qualification based on extenuating circumstances.

especially due to the deliberate destruction of the familial social fabric prosecuted by the communists for the last 100 years, especially women have become extremely unsuitable mentally for motherhood, and you can't waste your time with that, and if she's all about her "muh independence and strong woman blah fucking bitch nonsense" she's not going to be a good wife, or a good mother, and in some cases, she will be the next in the parade of oppressors for a person who was broken like those of us are who never were able to arrange even finding a suitable partner let alone actually being able to make the commitment.

i've never had money. that's a big one right there. i don't mean for a vain bitch who wants diamonds and pedicures, i mean just simply, she can't work, if she is to be a mother. her job is being a mother, for that time.

good luck finding women like that anywhere. you don't have to look far to discover that more than half of the (eligible) population is hypnotised consumer drones full of their own coolness and utterly unconcerned with anything that matters.

This a whole lot to say so little. You're being pedantic and unable or unwilling to see what he's at: marriage and kids are normative because they're fulfilling in and add a dimension to life that is irreplaceable; not to mention it's the best way to sustain civilization . Are people unable or unwilling to get married for a variety of reasons? Yes. Should this be the norm? No.

Let's get one thing straight. Words mean things.

If HODL used words imprecisely, that's on him.

It's not the referee's fault that the player committed the foul.

This is not new. In contract law, ambiguity in the contract favors the party who did not draw up the contract.

You are responsible for the words you use. So is HODL. He spoke imprecisely and unfairly.

Thank you for agreeing that he fucked up and needs to communicate more precisely.

It seems like a millenial thing to make a big deal about having children. People in past generations just had children because it was a biological imperative akin to breathing oxygen.

Maybe because millenials have grown up with social media they see the need to virtue signal about everything. I'm guessing becuase of the parenting style they had where they got a participation trophy for everything they did.

Not sure if my take is correct but it just seems odd to me the way people these days make a virtue of something that every other generation in human history took for granted.

It’s more like the fact that very few of our fellow millennials have children compared to past generations. I just met up with a buddy who was one of 6, out of all of his brothers and sisters he’s the only one with kids.