I disagree with you there. What about all the other clients available on ios that let you use nwc or other kyc free wallets? What about yakihonne on ios that has a wallet thats no kyc.
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Will talked about that on his last show with walker on the Bitcoin podcast. iOS is random with who they target and are very inconsistent. They are also not really clear about their terms and don’t have a proper process to challenge their decision. He literally said it was just a matter of luck that some were targeted, like him, and others were not.
Their practices with lightning arent the best I agree. But that doesnt mean that what Primal does is without flaw
It’s not. Nothing is. It’s all tradeoffs. The decision Will made was not great for damus. That’s why most iPhone users join nostr through primal. It’s why mcd still can’t zap notes 😂
McD cant zap notes because of his own choice. But he can zap profiles. And his identity is not tied to his npub
Neither is mine 🤷♂️
Mine either. But there’s probably a bunch of newcomers who put their info in willingly. And are on some primal excel spreadsheet now
I have a burner email that is in the trash sitting on their excel list. It doesn’t tell them anything about who I am 🤷♂️
It has received one email and nothing else.
You’re forgetting the other half of my message. What about the people that did give the real info
No one forced them to. How many of these people did the same thing on X? Most just don’t care. It’s unfortunate but that’s reality. Most people still use coinbase or kraken lol
That doesnt mean that what primal is doing is right. Coinbase argument is invalid. Dont care maybe. Dont know better maybe closer to reality.
Never said it was right. I just don’t think these practices lead to the EEE conclusion.
They have added their own nonstandard caching protocol, completely don’t work with private relays, and are extending the protocol in nonstandard ways. Now all that remains is closing the exits.
Who has the authority to say what the standard way is?
How can they close the exits?
Who has the authority to say what BIPs are used for bitcoin?
No one
So why are there quite a few used in bitcoin core for example?
That’s the consensus I’m guessing. But you can still use others and be forked off.
BIPs are not my area of expertise. Not sure how that relates to nostr.
It relates to nostr because we have nips. Nostr improvement proposal. There’s consensus for those too. Primal is not following consensus with a lot of its developments.
But I don’t think we need consensus on nostr the way we need it on Bitcoin. Primal doing its own thing doesn’t seem to affect damus and amethyst. Unless I’m wrong.
How about the tags when someone on primal replies to a note?
All the clients need to “speak the same language” or it doesn’t really work
Can you explain your position nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj and why you think primal is doing EEE? Or link to a note ID where you explained it before.
It’s annoying as fuck lmao but it doesn’t break nostr is my point. We don’t have a network of nodes that enforces consensus on nostr.
A lot of notes and notifications that I don’t see on primal but I see on damus and others.
I would say relays are similar to nodes. Not the same but similar
Yeah that’s an annoying problem. The free market will fix all this. They will either do it themselves, or someone else will offer something better.
Already other great options on ios and android. But Primal keeps being pushed because it’s so convenient.
Normies man. Tell them to set up a wallet on alby or coin os and they lose their minds. We’re not going to onboard people to nostr if we need them to learn anything to do with lightning lol
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They kinda have to learn a strict minimum even with the kyc wallet. whats an address. How to send/receive. Solutions like wallet of satoshi or coinos are very normie friendly. But yes. I get your point
One step at a time. Imagine joining nostr as a normie and people are welcoming you by telling you to run a lightning node 😵💫
Thats crazy. I said wallet of satoshi or coinos. Not LND or CLN + channel management 😂
I literally ran into this issue last night trying to onboard someone! Fuck, wish I knew about coinos
https://coinos.io/ nwc wallet. Newcomer friendly
So VC walled garden practices is good for nostr ? 😂
The answer is subjective but I can’t deny that more people are onboarded to nostr through primal though.
So as long as lots of people are onboarded through primal, they can have questionable practices? Meh
Never said that sir lol.
They can do that. Doesn’t mean they should.
You said its subjective. Anyways. In the end it doesnt matter. We have the choice to use what we want. I just wish people stop recommending primal so much. Just because it has an integrated wallet. Every precoiner has multiple apps for social media and at least an app for banking. But 2 apps for nostr is too much. That makes no sense
Ideally, they’d join with a different wallet. But you know how normies are man. Convincing their TikTok rotted brains to just think for 2 minutes is like pulling teeth. But here’s the thing, some will join and learn this stuff then later create a new anonymous npub. If they care. Most do not.
Agreed. Again doesnt mean that what primal is doing is right