Nostr Web Client

A new user who is getting shadow-banned from nostr:

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How can we improve this? I think the main fault is with primal here (just because nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcpr9mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumwdae8gtnnda3kjctv9uq3zamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wwa5kuef0qqs92xycp9kys8cqyx09e9pfnggaj9prjjwd67t6t7zs3ra4fyh2u4gv4c4d0 is using it), for blocking notes from its own users, and not showing relay publish failures (maybe?). But the criticisms apply to all clients.

Probably the root issue is that relay policy is hard to infer via nip 11 and notice/ok messages. It's also one of those unglamorous chores like error handling that no devs (except go devs) enjoy.

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Discussion

Derek Ross 1y ago

I would not consider that shadow banning or even banning. The user had their notes accepted by some relays. I think the lesson here is that relay management needs to improve. The UX is lacking as evident by his experience.

namosca 1y ago

Since amethyst has the inbox model I often see my posts getting delete. I don't understand it at all.

It's like witchcraft for me at this point

VictorieeMan 1y ago

At the end of the day relays are really just redundancy servers but with lealy abstraction in the nostr eco system. Unless some clients come up with a brilliant GUI for it, then most user's won't understand it.

The client question is how much hand holding should be done or not.

I agree more could be done in the relay info department, for users. In most cases they are quite tricky to know anything about on the client side.

someone 1y ago

i think relay management, gossip model, finding relays with less spam, dm relays, .... all these are pretty overwhelming for users. things should be much more easier. relay management should be automatic... nostr heads should really think seriously about user experience and making things a lot easier. i don't know how many people will find nostr quite complicated and leave..

here is an automatic relay algo:

1. post to as many relays as possible.

2. read from some relays. if a user marks a note spam, remove that relay that carried the spam or reduce the score of that relay. when score is 0 remove the relay.

chancellor 1y ago

It was me.