Maybe we should reach out to the influencers dictated by algos. Just saying.. these are our people.
Stop living in your own silo, bring people here then manage the silo. Or we're all fucked?
We gotta transform imo. Do more onboarding of the real creators. Make ourselves fucking heard.
I don’t think it’ll matter much. The fact that she got 2000 comments and shares, will alone keep her ok that platform.
We can try though - worth a shot. I just suspect they’ll see nostr and think it’s dead and go back.
Yeah I don't mean her specifically but I think people with that kind of "influencer" pull need to be pulled aside and taught this shit exists. She's fine with her 2k commments but she aint fine spiritually and emotionally and neither is most of the planet. We gotta grasp somebody surely
Nostr aint a way for her to fill her wallet or pay for meals but it might be a way for spritual redemption in the eyes of whatever she wakes up for
Reach out and try? I don’t have any accounts
I reached out on one account but im afraid it will be pushed to the bottom. I don't mind finding her on ALL her socials tho to get my point across.
Stalk her to freedom 😆
It’s an interesting read… musicians have been very much conditioned over the last 10 years to work a certain way, essentially to optimise for social media and become advertising vehicles for the platforms themselves.
It’s a tough one, an artist coming to Nostr today isn’t going to stick around once the initial ‘welcome’ zaps run dry. To even get a gig at the local pub, musicians are expected to show a healthy social media presence and labels won’t touch anyone without an already large following.
I’ve no real answers, the best I can do is to exist here and continue to be that weird guy locally that no one can get hold of…
Agree with you completely here... the paradigm shift needs to happen sooner than later. Or whatever, but i'm feeling very much like you. "That weird local guy who shows his head every halvening". Even having the advice of nostr at their beckoning I feel is of great power tho. I could never get a proper interlude to requite conversation on any other platform. We know alot, ALOT as a group/community. Too much for our own good probs 😂 - but people will be people.
ɪ ꜰeeʟ verʏ sᴛronɢʟʏ ᴛʜaᴛ ᴛʜe ᴘroʙʟem we ʜave ɪn ꜰɪnᴅɪnɢ more ᴘeoᴘʟe ᴛo ᴊoɪn us ʜere ɪs a ʟoᴛ ᴛo ᴅo wɪᴛʜ ᴛʜe ɪnꜰesᴛaᴛɪon oꜰ our ɪrʟ socɪaʟ ɢraᴘʜs wɪᴛʜ ᴛoxɪc ᴘeoᴘʟe.
ɪ neeᴅ ᴛo ɢeᴛ on ʏaᴋɪʜonne or someᴛʜɪnɢ anᴅ revɪse mʏ "manɪᴘuʟaᴛɪon ᴘroᴛocoʟ" ᴛexᴛ... mɪɢʜᴛ even see ɪꜰ cʟauᴅe can ᴅɪɢ uᴘ cɪᴛaᴛɪons anᴅ reꜰɪne ᴛʜe ᴛexᴛ anᴅ ʟaʏouᴛ a ʙɪᴛ.
anʏwaʏ, wɪᴛʜ ᴛʜaᴛ avaɪʟaʙʟe ɪn a ʙeᴛᴛer ꜰorm, ɪ wɪʟʟ ʙe ᴘuʙʟɪsʜɪnɢ ɪᴛ ᴛo manʏ reʟaʏs anᴅ mʏ suɢɢesᴛɪon ɪs ᴛʜaᴛ ɪꜰ ʏou can ʟearn ᴛo ɪᴅenᴛɪꜰʏ wʜo ɪn ʏour socɪaʟ cɪrcʟes are ʜoʟᴅɪnɢ ʙacᴋ ᴛʜe oᴛʜers wʜo mɪɢʜᴛ ʙe sʏmᴘaᴛʜeᴛɪc, ʙuᴛ aꜰraɪᴅ ᴛo ᴅeꜰʏ ᴛʜe conᴛroʟʟɪnɢ ɪnꜰʟuence oꜰ ᴛʜese ᴛoxɪc ᴘeoᴘʟe, ᴛʜaᴛ ʏou wɪʟʟ ꜰɪnᴅ more ᴘeoᴘʟe.
waᴛcʜ ᴛʜɪs sᴘace
we also need paying fans, just sayin'
Its worth trying. This is the answer but they're us no guarantee that they understand or see it the same way.
No guarantees in life ever, but its worth a shot
Musicians and artists who live off their art rely on high traffic and fans. They won't find these on NOSTR. Their followers don't get the decentralized ethos, the love staying in herds. I brought some artists here and none of them stayed for too long.
If you expect big money influencers to get to NOSTR then you will be disappointed. Most are just merchants really. Nostr is a very specific corner of the web. I love it but I don't expect any traffic here to be honest.
Ment - "They love staying in herds"
Oh 100% - I feel they roam in packs too. It's good to hear your take and efforts. I don't expect any money to make its way here. and thats probably a good thing. It's more the spiritual journey which I want artists to join us on, fuck the economical implications.. i want these people to find happiness and to be able to say "fuck you" to the man
Totally with you and this is why I'm here. I went through posting into the void just to understand the Nostr ethos but not everyone is prepared to do so.
After some time I started thinking of Nostr as my personal notebook, canvas and soul searching journal. I am grateful we have Nostr and I feel like the social media tied with social score system will eventually push people this way. Till then we build.
Fucking aye. We build till our hands are drenched in blood. Or something
Recently nostr:npub1qy2tkywa36ufh76qv62snv4953eayufxufav4evz2le06lxe2amqpxavna had a good post. People are self-interested, so optimise for the algo. They literally create content to “trend”
Unless people are willing to live the idea of “delayed gratification” and accept that superior digital property rights comes at a cost
Then they will forever remain algo slaves in the attention economy
Sure, her post tells of pain, but clearly not enough pain to actually just leave…
People will figure it out in there on time
Not going to chase them personally
I am trying to discover people on X and get them over here. I just started though, so have 0 reach 😂
Me too, Zero reach. Not been on that shit platform for 3 great years.
But if you had someone you cared and loved about on that platform, would you give up?
Fuck the platform... dont fuck the users! They're stupid af sad to say but they go with the sheep. And afaik we aint sheep gangbanging bulls. Thats wall street and the white house.
Ok ok xmas spirit and all that. I’ll put together a team and we’ll go in fast and hard, get who we can and get the hell out of there fast. 😂
