I’m a fan of removing DEI from government.
But having worked with the FAA and to some extent NASA for a period time, and knowing people still there, DEI hiring is overestimated among the public.
I checked with one of my close NASA friends and he was like:
It's just dumb. Not reason to ask for race or any nonsense than if you can physically do the job.
Experience in my industry (commercial nuclear power) is that the DEI hires were mostly managers and HR people. The technical work was largely unaffected, but we had some good people quit when things started getting too woke not to mention the general degradation of policies and management quality, which was essentially slow but steady.
I work nuclear outages. Go to California once a year and the DEI stuff is on full display in the admin buildings. In the shops mostly only on display on the computer monitors because they make IT put it there.
Exactly, it's all the little things like that. Eventually though all that waste does slowly degrade the work environment in my experience at least.
I guess that depends on which shop though. Could just be my experience.
This is such a good take. Even in the liberal nonprofit sector Ive worked in the past decade, it was a lot of tried and failed overpaid “training” efforts that didn’t bear much fruit.
It has not taken over the workplace, or many other such places, in crazy “woke” ways at the rate people online are suggesting…
Its probably a blanket statement, cuz like I know companies I worked for had it as part of their bonus structures
Hot take but…all the hate of DEI at the end of the day is xenophobia. Americans just can’t admit it. People don’t like seeing BIPOC people taking jobs, and use “DEI” as the excuse their dumb ass didn’t get hired. But yea, it’s a policies fault that an airplane crashed into a helicopter.
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the question is, how many recent hires have been dei related. we dont figure people there for more than 10-12 years were brought in for that reason.
Thanks for sharing this
Minorities are underrepresented in the workforce and these people think white people are the ones being discriminated against.
working at Amazon was a laugh riot with their in your face DEI posters, pins, videos, meetings, etc. But being a redhead i am sure that is why they hired me.
Good to know, I have definitely been thinking it’s more than it apparently is
It’s way way way overstated generally and very very likely didn’t contribute at all to the DC crash, but to be fair the FAA’s hiring practices were objectively racist af. They filtered explicitly for people passing a “biographical test” that they sent the answers to black candidates to.
For some of their roles, maybe.
I’d assume that’d apply less to engineers than other roles, and though. And then a lot of their engineers were contractors, which they generally just want the best in.
No, for air traffic controllers themselves. There’s several lawsuits over it, it was…. Really poorly done.
For NASA I haven’t seen any evidence of any real discrimination and I’d be surprised to learn any different than your claim.
To be clear, air traffic controllers were still properly qualified (they still had to go through the government ATC school), but the hiring practices to get there were incredibly racist. Sadly this also meant people who went to community colleges for ATC training got denied entry into the federal ATC school.
I imagine NASA is very high status still, so gets top class applicants and has a culture of+ability to maintain high levels of discernment for applicants.
Can’t imagine that’s the case in other parts of gov.
It's implicitly been part of the agenda since the 70s
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I suspect one you get outside left wing organizations there was nothing but lip service being paid to DEI. However, a true believer here or there in a high position can really foul things up. It’s good that everyone can stop pretending it’s important
I don’t think so. Friend was an Amazon recruiter and she said they had dei quotas and bonuses for hiring minority groups.
it's all huge scam to savoring money of that never arrives
different country and different work, but we got a visit from the government telling us that they want to see a more diverse workforce. Not every measure can be found in a document.
idk I think dei was never an anti-white narrative at least academically speaking. Have u heard of blind auditions for orchestras or competitions, to eliminate bias. I used to be a concert pianist and I was very used to that kind of stuff. Meaning it was the norm to be judged on skills, talent, insanely hard work etc no one really felt that minorities were ignored. In fact more women got hired by orchestras this way. There’s a study about that.
fantastic
Might be different in different parts of the government though?
I always suspected the emphasis on DEI was histrionics coming from right wing influencers. Both sides whip their base into a frenzy. It's all so tiring.
Uh huh. Obama's FAA rule for "biographical assessment" over skills based exam had zero effect, right? 🙄
"Our problems couldn't be the dumbasses we hired en masse! Surely not!"
GTFO of here. 😂
I’m an airline pilot. DEI among air traffic controllers is pervasive and a problem.
