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I saw this a few months back, it’s an interesting idea for sure
Have you tested it?
I bought one with crowdfunding. Had to wait 5 years and when it arrived it was very disappointing unfortunately. Very slow, very heavy. The app store doesn't work correctly. The idea is great though.
Why not #[2] on Pixel?
It’s nice that the battery can be replaced and removed by the owner. That is an extension of privacy in addition to the capability of the owner for self-replacement of the component.
what laptop/OS do you run
#[1]
Sadly all Linux phones are unusable so far. I just bought them to support the development. Hopefully one day they become usuable.
5 for 5 years old maturity level???🤮🤮🤮🤮
Proud owner of one. Bought it to support the cause and the development in the last two years has been remarkable. Convergence is my favorite feature.
I'm a nut about phones and this thing is about perfect. They've prioritized all the right aspects and kept as much user control as possible. Unfortunately 2K is a bit much for me to early adopt it. #[1] are you going to be throwing a few Bitcoins at this team to spring development too? Do they have a donate link where I can zap them a few sats?
Currently the best tradeoff is #grapheneos on Pixel
you should consider Shiftphone with PostmarketOS as well: https://www.shiftphones.com/en/shiftphone-8-status-page/
As others have mentioned, why this over GrapheneOS ?
Lobrem 5 has hardware switches for different parts of it. It means you can turn off wifi outside of the OS no matter the OS.
shipping - 52 weeks - o.k.
I ordered one over 4 years ago and still have not received it
CalyxOS Is good
While what you use is your perogative, if you are looking at the OSes due to being concerned about security/privacy and that being a focus of your decision making however, the following should be taken into account.
GrapheneOS and CalyxOS are much different. GrapheneOS is a hardened OS with substantial privacy and security improvements:
https://grapheneos.org/features
CalyxOS is not a hardened OS. It substantially reduces security. It recently went 2 months not shipping standard security patches.
Compatibility with Android apps on GrapheneOS is also much different. GrapheneOS provides our sandboxed Google Play compatibility layer:
https://grapheneos.org/usage#sandboxed-google-play
Can run the vast majority of Play Store apps on GrapheneOS, but not CalyxOS with the problematic microG approach.
CalyxOS is closer to LineageOS they both share the same issue above and they both always use multiple Google services too while giving them privileged access even if users don't use microG. It would be wrong to imply they don't use Google services. microG is of course an implementation of Google services. GrapheneOS doesn't use Google services by default.
To clarify further they always use Google services even without microG. They use Google for connectivity checks, network time, attestation key provisioning, SUPL, DNS fallback (LineageOS only), PSDS (Pixel 6 and 7), eSIM activation and more enabled by default.
https://blog.privacyguides.org/2022/04/21/grapheneos-or-calyxos/ is a 3rd party article explaining some of the substantial differences between GrapheneOS and CalyxOS. It's a common misconception that they're similar. CalyxOS is far more similar to LineageOS than GrapheneOS. There are many other alternate OSes available.
https://privsec.dev/posts/android/choosing-your-android-based-operating-system/ is another article about privacy and security differences between alternative Android-based operating systems.
I'd be more than happy to hear your feedback if you ever take the time to compare the two objectively.
This!!! Is the kind of content I crave. Thanks #[1]
Also, guys, if nostrasia can be a paid event it will be better. I kind of feel these things are becoming too much leeching off of #[1]
Personally I have self respect.
Unfortunately it's not any good yet. PinePhone is a better alternative at least for now
Interesting ability of this phone is that the modem can be replaced, and there are other radios with the same form factor.