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liminal šŸ¦  11mo ago

Curious to others' opinions.

Do you want hyperbitcoinization? Do you want the internet to be run on nostr? How do you think we'd get there?

I say the strongest path to that is through a (decentralized) education. Where anyone curious can learn anything they'd want, conveyed in a way that is best suited to their background.

If Bitcoin provides the most solid foundation for a collective economic metabolism (the social organization that allocates economic energy to produce economic value). If nostr provides the strongest means for free communication, then educating individuals on how to use it AND how to build it is the most powerful route. If they aren't, then education will will not only point it out to everyone, but also provide guidance on how to build better systems.

Not only that, but in a world where anyone can communicate, we need tools that enable ourselves to distinguish signal from noise. Again, this is where education comes into play.

If all this is true, then the technology stack for our new social operating system starts with three layers.

#Bitcoin: how we collectively allocate resources as a social system

#Nostr: how our individual cellves šŸ˜‰ can communicate within and across communities

#Education: To focus the communication window. Not for censorship, but scrutiny. Anyone (un)intentionally muddying our communication will be found, and ignored.

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rafftyl 11mo ago

I believe that education plays a great role, but mostly for a relatively small number of people that need convincing - entrepreneurs, decision-makers of different kinds and so on. The general public just needs high quality payment services and don't even have to know that they are using Bitcoin. And for sure most of them won't (and should not) care about what's happening under the hood. Of course, we still need to spread the word to the masses, but I guess that memes would be more effective that "real" education in this regard.

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calvadevāš”ļø 11mo ago

Completely agree!

Efforts like the [Network School](ns.com) are moving along this front, but with a more "crypto" and technology agnostic lens, or a [technodemocracy](https://youtu.be/AT3mwJOdSHQas) as they call it. Starting something like it, but on a argueably more sound and lean technological foundation with #Bitcoin and #Nostr has been on my mind a lot as of late.

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inpc 11mo ago

I donā€™t see a Bitcoin standard working to be brutally honest. Itā€™s a nice idea but with 9 billion people in the world and with folks like Michael Sailor only keen on accumulating and never (or very rarely) deploying capital, I donā€™t think there will be enough to go round. If hyper happens and Iā€™m wrong, well Iā€™m happy to be wrong, it certainly wouldnā€™t be the first time.

Nostr: well that depends on where data is hosted. If data is held on many, many smaller servers then cool. If it means all hosted data (videos, large files etc) on a few large servers then no. I understanding that data is sent by relays etc but still, data needs a home right? Again happy to be proved wrong. Iā€™m basing this on my use of Zap.Stream. Itā€™s great for streaming and I dig it but if I want the data to exist beyond the stream I either pay them to store the data or I host myself. If large amounts of content is stored with zap stream it becomes a single point of failure.

If Iā€™m talking bollocks happy to be corrected but you asked for opinionsā€¦

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calvadevāš”ļø 11mo ago

Capital, especially if supply-capped, must at some point be deployed whether a person likes it or not; we can't live our lives without spending. And if anything, people hoarding appreciates the capital stock of 'smaller' individuals. It's a virtuous NGU cycle.

There's definitely a centralization risk when it comes to data storage, but tools are already being developed and exist to make self-hosting seamless and easy even for non-technical people. Local relays like Citrine on Android are also a great solution to this. The main hurdle to overcome imo is changing consumer behavior to a direction where users feel comfortable paying for these services and/or the associated hosting costs.

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liminal šŸ¦  11mo ago

The key lies in the organization of events. The regular events on the popular clients are essentially a a stream of unorganized notes were the context is usually about what happened that day. But books, magazines, courses, videos, and even personal notes all have a lot of context to work with. The question to solve is if you find a unified way to organize these things, so you are able to be immediately pointed to things you care to learn. If you're just storing text, you have a lot of room to work with. That's why nostr scales so well, because it doesn't need to deal with more expensive storage, just storing and sending the text events.

But even a video, if its a lecture + slide show, its just an image or video with commentary, so you can transform it into an article where you have images and a cleaned up version of what was said.

Large file hosting is a puzzle, but the combination of centralized, self hosted and distributed (Nostr x Blossom) is already compelling.

The Bitcoin standard is an interesting idea, but if the game theory is solid, it wins in a free market. Otherwise, the better system wins - I'm okay with that.