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2017 vibes but with ipos instead of icos

Except this is fundamentally different since they are backed by Bitcoin, no? Save for a Black Swan or just massive amounts of paper Bitcoin and rehypothecation happening, this should be as safe a play as their could possibly be.

If Bitcoin has a significant drawdown past highs when all of these various actors are buying up multiples of daily minted supply, OTC desks and exchange levels consistently dropping, it will be time to scrap the scarcity narrative because the math ain't mathing. At that point we'd also probably have to have the difficult conversation that it's been captured by tradfi, too.

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ODELL 6mo ago 💬 3

definitely different but the guys behind the eos ico still own 164000 bitcoin

they just didnt give any ownership rights to token holders

Chris Liss 6mo ago 💬 1

Right, seems different getting people to trade their dollars (backed by nothing, large network effect) for shares (backed by bitcoin, large network effect.) The ICOs were backed by nothing and had a small network effect.

I do think the next leg down will be over leveraged forced-seller bitcoin companies, but I’d also expect big companies like AAPL or META to buy them in that case to acquire coins without moving the price as much as it would if they had to get them at the market.

DRE 6mo ago 💬 2

Is any company buying Bitcoin with short-duration secured debt?

Seems like most companies are doing some form of ATM or low-interest long-duration debt to buy bitcoin.

Either way, a reckless company with a $ 1,000 BTC balance sheet having to liquidate will get eaten up by Strategy’s 4 ATMs in less than a week.

When Strategy is buying $1B a week with the ATMs, it won’t matter how many no-name companies are buying Bitcoin with credit cards and getting blown up.

By that point, MetaPlanet will be buying thousands of Bitcoin a month with their MSW program as well. And then you have the ETFs, Nakamoto, etc.

Nothing stops this train.

DRE 6mo ago 💬 1

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El Zeta 6mo ago

Those sats are forever gone. Forever

Chris Liss 6mo ago 💬 1

There are only a few now, but wait until 1000 companies pile in.

DRE 6mo ago 💬 1

Strategy bought ~50,000 in the span of a month last fall. People underestimate their scale.

Assuming 1,000 companies will recklessly acquire Bitcoin when the playbook for success is open source is unrealistic, in my opinion.

What if all the 1,000 companies buy Bitcoin with ATMs? The stock prices may and will likely boom and bust, but no Bitcoin will be sold.

El Zeta 6mo ago

NOTHING stops this 🚂🍊🍊🍊

Hanshan 6mo ago

It's still a shitcoin that is "backed by Bitcoin"

SuiGenerisJohn 6mo ago

Wait, you can acquire bitcoin with other people's money in exchange for unenforceable promises???