In case you weren’t aware, Lightning invoices reveal the receiving node pubkey, node pubkeys reveal node IP addresses, clear net IP addresses are owned by known entities, and individuals who hold accounts with those known entities to use those IP addresses can be identified.

It is disingenuous at best, perhaps even dishonest, to pretend and suggest that the average person is better off from a privacy standpoint running their own Lightning node for making payments/zaps. The real issue is custody of funds. “Not your keys, not your coins.” If you are at risk of financial disaster from losing $50 worth of anything, including bitcoin, then you have bigger problems than learning how to run a Lightning node.

Self-custodial solutions are good and necessary for maintaining control over your funds. Larping about a level of privacy that few, if any, can achieve, is a waste of time. Get over yourself, go have a drink with a friend, and make someone’s day by making them smile.

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Good news and good thing you said

I would put it in a different perspective:

Do you use internet?

Do you fear about your privacy?

1️⃣ Use vpn

2️⃣ Strict no log policy (trust???)

3️⃣ Double-hop if possible

4️⃣ Buy with cash or btc

Custodial or non-custodial lightning wallet solution or node?

Do you fear of losing your funds because of third party?

Make your own ln node, so you will own your funds.

Do you fear of privacy with non-custodial?

Go back to first point and use a vpn.

But I agree, it is important to understand different sides of things. And own ln node is less about privacy in my opinion and more about no trust.

Only my 5 cent.

The default assumption anyone should make is that whatever they do online is completely public. Don’t ever assume you have privacy, because you probably don’t. Then take necessary steps to try and hide/obfuscate whatever info you wish wasn’t public. VPN is a good start. And if it absolutely needs to be private, then don’t do it online.

Yes. Take the risk, or don't do it.

Why are they promoting these zaps and wos then?

Because it works and because the risk of keeping a small amount of funds on a wallet such as WoS is minimal enough as to be an acceptable level of risk for most people.

For me, I carry cash in my wallet and there is the chance of me losing it, but the convenience is worth the tradeoff. If I lose my funds in a custodial wallet, it's the same tradeoff for me. Every decision we make has tradeoffs, and are assessed by the individual. There are no "correct" answers.

naw bro. see, all you have to do is use bitcoin to pay for a private dns service. then use bitcoin to buy credits to deploy a DO server. put a proxy on that bitch. point the dns to the proxy server. then proxy all requests from that server to your home setup, making sure to port forward requests on your pfsense router (you are running pfsense, right?!?!) to your lnd node running on that old laptop you definitely kept from 2010 that has arch on it because ubuntu is for pussies. how is this complicated? what do you mean you don't know what a terminal is? bro, it's easy, bro. just do it. fuck your life outside of this. fuck your kids. fuck exercise. you must learn this now! everything will end if you don't, bro!

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And that's a follow. *golf clap*

Zapped via a custodial wallet