Reminder to all, that all the fancy contract things we can come up with on Bitcoin (for example Lightning) where the idea is to leverage the trustminimizing properties, will make higher value transactions cheaper, they wont make low value transactions possible; because the trust minimizing guarentees on an interaction rely on onchain transactions.

Plebs get rekt, you only have business onchain if you can afford to bribe a miner.

You will trust and you will be happy.

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Are fake n gay, but i am pro script updates that would, by happenstance, allow you to do such silly things. I am not pro any drivechain specific softfork however; i dont care your silly thing wont be hyper optimized.

Isn't Lightning solving this problem? Plebs using Lightning for small transactions? It's happening already.

No, the small lighting transactions are not actually ''real'' lightning transactions, but besides that it will always boil down to your ability to close a channel; which is an onchain transaction. Lightning does not reduce that threshold of onchain fee's, but it allows you to distribute those costs over many interactions.

Note, i use lighting (and for small tx's), all the time, to get a shorttime vpn or silly AI pictures.

Well if you run LN node then you care about channels and closing/opening them but you can use Lightning without those things and simply enjoy fast network with minimal fees.

then i will redirect you to the original statement that explicitly speaks about trust-minimization. And i hope we can both agree that custodial sollutions have nothing to do with that because they are trusted.

Yes. Agreed.