Replying to Avatar Lyn Alden

As both a tahini lover and seed oil disrespectooor, this is a question I've thought about more than I care to admit.

imo, the tentative answer is somewhere in the middle. With the caveat that I'm not a molecular biologist and I could change my view.

Some of the worst aspects of seed oils in modern processed foods are that they are produced with extremely high heat in an industrial process that damages them, they literally turn rancid, and then various de-odorizing chemicals are used to mask that. There's a million red flags there. And they're in everything. I went down this research rabbit hole like 15 years ago, and then tested various diets on my own body with blood results and such.

Tahini is a more traditional food, able to be made with low-tech and lower-heat methods. Blended up sesame seeds is likely not the worst thing to eat on occasion.

It's kind of like how when people who are too sensitive to eat American bread go to Europe and can eat their bread without obvious consequences. Their breads are lot less acutely bad. They're probably nowhere near an "optimal performance" diet, but there's some damage control there. Same thing for like "Einkorn wheat" and stuff.

I went through a big ketogenic phase, and then seasonal ketogenic, etc. That's kind of where I'm at now: seasonal. I eat tahini only when in Egypt. It's so good, including with Egyptian bread which I otherwise try to minimize, and rather than having all our family meals have to revolve around me, I just adapt to the local diet, eat the parts I love, and then when I want to be more strict, I do it on my own time.

My rule for diets is to optimize them up until they cause stress. Once they cause stress, they start offsetting the good aspects.

And for me, dipping some Egyptian bread into some Egyptian tahini, is worth it on occasion.

nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpckv7l8jqspl8u4y54dn9rcduwlrs4v2040nxce0m2h0cunvrj8tqqsvnescwwketf8uqvcl8kn3gp0cn3fk83dftut33hdq3cmpjjngjlq9lvs8j

I appreciate this answer. Residing primarily in the US (for now), I have been on a solid ketogenic diet for the past year. In the last 6 months, I've been following research on how the body and brain process seed oils, beyond just the issues of seed oil industrial production. It seems there's an issue with quantity (our early ancestors would never have ingested the amounts of oil from seeds, even in one sitting, that we currently commonly consume) and an issue with the type of long chain fatty acid that makes up seed oils (it takes a lot of inefficient work for cells to break it down for energy, particularly in the brain, and leaving the high amounts of oxidative stress.) But I'm not sure if tahini strictly falls into this category. For myself, I'll look into it.

Here's an interesting interview that includes a discussion on this research by Dr. Georgia Ede. Seed oil discussion begins at 10:05, and the specifics on oxidative stress begin at 12:45. I think the entire segment on seed oils is 5 minutes in total:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=koh9WpXZNOg

Reply to this note

Please Login to reply.

Discussion

No replies yet.