You're not correcting anything, you’re just coping with the fact that Monero is a niche project preaching to a choir while Bitcoin reshapes the financial system. You can call it a ‘misunderstanding,’ but it sounds a lot more like bitterness from the losing team. Keep gatekeeping your privacy coin while the rest of us actually build something the world uses
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dude, you wrote a bunch of bullshit fud and didnt expect anyone to call you out?
did you forget already?
now you're gonna whine about gatekeeping and pretend YOU were attacked?
good luck with that.
Hahaha your little insignificant network isn't even in the same league. The btc network is 2 trillion dollars in value and the other is 4 billion. Its actually nothing, irrelivent, and nobody cares about it. Its a rounding error. Ffs a doge meme coin is worth 5 times more. Stay poor
You do realise the USA printed 7 trillion in 2 years? 😂
2 trillion cuck bucks? Is that wealth?
Figured you wouldnt mind me denominate its value in a shitcoin like USD cuz you already shitcoin with monero
Homeless Survival Guide" by Jeff Yago
Handbook for the Homeless: How to Survive on the Streets" by Charles W. Watson
The Art and Science of Dumpster Diving" by John Hoffman
Might want to pick these up while your coin is atleast worth a little bit. Remember to convert it to dollars first though cuz we both know you can't buy them with monero hahaha
So where can I buy these books with Bitcoin?
Bitcoin is more like a stock these days. Most hodl forever, park it on exchanges, or buy ETFs.
It's a farce to pretend that any large fraction of people with Bitcoin are actually using it to buy goods and services.
Monero is smaller but punches well above it's weight in actual usage. Every merchant that accepts Monero either exceeds or is right behind Bitcoin.
Even Bitcoin based markets like Bisq are mostly Monero trades.
Decentalized, digital commodity, fixed supply, hedge against fait debasement, permissionless, censorship resistent money. Just like a stock right? Youre actually braindead haha
Uk money isn't just a medium or exchange right? Especially not in a small app that nobody knows about. Uk what also "punches above its weight"? Chuck cheese tokens at chuck cheese haha
Having Bitcoin on exchanges and buying ETFs gives the vast majority of users none of the properties you listed. So yea essentially a stock.
And sitting in your cold storage without using it in commerce does jack towards being a medium of exchange.
When it comes to crypto most of the world is using Tether because unfortunately Bitcoin dropped the ball as an MoE.
Still waiting on you to show me how I can buy those books with Bitcoin though
I must’ve missed the part where you can buy those books with Monero either. And Tether? Still smaller than Bitcoin in market cap and pegged to the system that continues to loose value. If your point is that Bitcoin’s not perfect and Monero’s even worse, then yeah, agreed haha
Lmao so we've now gone from "Ha you can't use Monero to buy these books you have to convert it to dollars first" to "Bitcoin can't either"
In that case what a stupid point to bring up in the first place 🤦♂️
Yea that's how much Bitcoin has fallen out of favor as an MoE that even a shitty pegged to the system permissioned coin has usurped it. A squandered opportunity at a pivotal point in time. It's really a shame and I say that with no glee.
You were the one flexing Monero’s ‘real usage'. I just pointed out neither one buys those books without touching fiat and you should probabaly convert it to fait soon before your shitcoins value is 0. MoE isn’t the only purpose of money. it’s actually the smallest. Most wealth isn’t high-velocity, it’s stored. That’s why Bitcoin scaled up to base money, while Monero stayed stuck trying to be spending change in a closed loop.
>"neither one buys those books without touching fiat"
>"Bitcoin scaled up to base money"
🤔
Money is the most saleable good. Bitcoin is obviously not that even by your own admission. Sorry to inform you that we're all bartering with digital tokens here.
Calling Bitcoin 'not money' because it's not the most saleable good right now misses the point. Monetary assets don’t start as MoE. They become it after establishing trust and value. Bitcoin is scaling into that role globally, while Monero peaked as spending change in a closed loop. We aren't bartering tokens, we're watching one of them actually monetize and the other loose to two dog coins haha
Being the most saleable good is literally what makes something money or not lmfao. What you're describing is called speculation. Every trade that doesn't involve money is bartering that currently includes Bitcoin and might always.
It’s funny how you’ve dropped Monero from the argument entirely. Probably because you know it doesn’t scale beyond a niche. And no, money isn’t born as the most saleable good, it earns that status over. That is a textbook answer with no nuance. Every historical money has gone from store of value, medium of exchange, and unit of account. That’s not speculation, that’s monetization. Bitcoin’s on that path. Monero’s still trying to get invited to the table. But monero bros would never let that happen cuz it wouldn't be "cool" anymore. You all would just move to the next project cuz you are hipsters
>"Probably because you know it doesn’t scale beyond a niche. And no, money isn’t born as the most saleable good, it earns that status over."
In other words, you're trying to predict the future AKA speculation. Maybe you don't know this but Bitcoin doesn't scale globally either not even with Lightning.
>"That is a textbook answer with no nuance. Every historical money has gone from store of value, medium of exchange, and unit of account."
Accusing me of not being nuanced then proceed to say something without nuance. You just keep making assertions without the smallest bit of argument or evidence behind it besides what other bitcoin maxis told you.
Monero is already usurping Bitcoin as king of the darknet market despite Bitcoin having first mover advantage and being the largest network that is accepted on every exchange. Black markets are the only place relevant to Bitcoins value prop. Money flowing through permissioned white market transactions are a non-starter. It's tradfi with extra steps.
So now Monero’s entire value prop is that it’s the king of the darknet? Congrats, your coin peaked as black market lunch money. Meanwhile, Bitcoin’s building layered global infrastructure, and you're over here flexing niche criminal use like it's mass adoption.
And yeah, monetization is a process, not a prediction. Calling that ‘speculation’ just tells me you don’t understand how money emerges. Cope harder haha
Any arbitrary rule by a centralized authority can be imposed on any transaction that takes place on the white market including Bitcoin. They can impose any burden they want to advantage fiat. Extra taxes on bitcoin transactions or "unrealized" gains taxes for hodlers to offset your "gains", require you hold it with their government approved custodians and give you IOUs to fractionally reserve, or even outright ban it.
Flexing cucked permissioned Bitcoin mass adoption is an oxymoron. Might as well use fiat at that point.
It's not money. You claim it will one day be money and NGU. Thats called speculation you don't know the future.