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yes I know, and it's a very stupid question. if you relay blocks at all you are already relaying illegal data. this is a fact. if you are afraid of that you shouldn't run a bitcoin node. you are trying to make this into a thing where you are being safer or more virtuous by pretending valid transactions don't exist for their first 20 minutes, making your node run less efficiently for no benefit, and like I already explained it doesn't matter. you want to have your cake and eat it too.

Ferris Bueller 3mo ago 💬 1

It is a reasonable question and I don't understand why its hard for you to answer. I would argue all day that we should relay what is necessary to maintain consensus because maintaining this new monetary system is a net benefit to society even if it includes illicit material. I however cannot defend an individuals actions that knownly and purposely decided to store it when there is a perfectly good alernative. Opening ourselves unnecessarily to legal and the court of public opinion for almost no reason is just not a positive and i don't see why we need to put it on the front page when it can atleast stay buried in witness data for now.

This defeatist additude you have is really sad. The btc community (atleast that run a node and use it) isn't that big yet. You can make your voice heard and make a difference if you decide too.

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goatmeal 3mo ago 💬 1

I think it is wrong from a legal perspective and a court of public opinion perspective to differentiate illegal arbitrary data between STAMPS, OP_RETURN, and ordinals. still if large OP_RETURN values bother you so much, you should make a fork of bitcoin where they are invalid in consensus. it doesn't matter what core does and it doesn't matter if lots of people run knots. these transactions are still valid and we must assume that some miner will get them and confirm them because of censorship resistance. you must make them invalid in consensus.

Ferris Bueller 3mo ago 💬 1

Telling me to fork myself is not an argument haha. If I was driving and I hit somebody who jumped in front of my car because they had headphones in vs. I'm drunk and I hit somebody with my car, would you say its the same thing because the result is same? Or do you think that would be treated different in each perspective?

goatmeal 3mo ago

there is nobody driving a car or drinking alcohol or crossing the street. don't be silly.

you are propagating confirmed blocks, are you not? and you are aware that confirmed blocks contain multiple different types of arbitrary data that are allowed in consensus including STAMPS, OP_RETURN, and witness data. you are aware that all of these methods have been used to store illegal data. yet you intentionally continue to propagate confirmed blocks. you are knowingly and willingly relaying illegal data right now.