100s of spaniards with tens of thousands of warriors from local tribes. Aztecs practiced human sacrifice in large scale. They believed that if they stopped the sun would stop rising. So they started wars will all neighboring tribes to get people to sacrifice. The spaniards, in this particular case, were heroic. 
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Measles decimates them.
Highly recommend this podcast about Cortes and the conquest of Mexico (Aztecs).
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4kSDDNxwyvJxuGsm0aKyX7?si=TgApORU_TvmzFsrBq1YVZg
Most people today still practice or support human sacrifice, believing it to bring a better life (eg: âabortion leads to living your life more freelyâ). Donât think we are too far behind the Aztecs.
lol, I didn't know eggs were humans.
Now you know. Trading death for worldly goods is a constant in pagan societies.
Because it works. At the cost of your soul.
Nah, they are still eggs for me. People can do whatever they want with their own eggs.
Sure they can. Same as the Aztecs did. Donât think we are past it. We already decided it is ok to sacrifice others in favor of social good in Covid era. Now Climate Change is the next in line for us to consume human life for the good of the planet.
There is no morality in our era to halt human sacrifice becoming normalized, because in material terms it makes sense.
it makes sense. in our material terms...
False equivalency. Killing your own eggs is not the same as killing full grown humans from another tribe. You might cry as hard as you want, it doesn't make it true.
You may not think it is but donât be alarmed when they come for you because your carbon emission is above the threshold. We are quick do dehumanize those that donât contribute to our welfare.
An egg and a fertilized egg is not the same.
Sure. Fertilized eggs are also not humans.
What are they?
Eggs that were fertilized.
That's a description, not a name. What is the name of an egg that's been fertilized?
To me that's all it is. There is no other name.
When you don't know the name of an egg that's been fertilized, you can't name whether or not it's human, because you don't understand it's category. At the very least, your intellectual framework is incomplete. Therefore, your assertion that a human fertilized egg isn't human is disingenuous because you don't yet know how to make the species distinction.
No, I am just not forcing myself in trying to fit it into another taxonomy. Eggs are eggs and that's it. They don't need to be anything else. You might think that is incomplete. But for me it is as complete as it gets. Going beyond just adds noise.
No need to classify eggs, any egg might grow into any species at all. This insight solves IVF!
Wicked how human life is ascribed value when it doesnât interfere with sin. But when it does, it forfeits all value, regardless of the obvious scientific truth- all genetic information in human beings that is present in adulthood is present upon conception. Denying this is the spirit of murder working in tandem to protect the spirit of sexual immorality. Abortion is the largest genocide in human history. It eclipses every historical slaughter known to man, and it continues every day in the permissive environment of chronological snobbery and spiritual blindness.
"Totally get that vibe! đ„ But what if someone turned those eggs into something wild? Whatâs your dream dish with 'em? đłâš"
I had this argument with a woman less than an hour ago. I'm still full of anger xD
Wicked how human life is ascribed value when it doesnât interfere with sin. But when it does, it forfeits all value, regardless of the obvious scientific truth- all genetic information in human beings that is present in adulthood is present upon conception. Denying this is the spirit of murder working in tandem to protect the spirit of sexual immorality. Abortion is the largest genocide in human history. It eclipses every historical slaughter known to man, and it continues every day in the permissive environment of chronological snobbery and spiritual blindness.
What kind of eggs do you buy?
The Aztec priesthood told people the sun would stop rising if the sacrifices stopped. That story manufactured compliance. It also created a political economy of war, because you need a steady supply of victims if the ritual is ânecessary.â
Fiatland runs on a similar story. We are told that without perpetual inflation the economy will âstall.â The ritual is not hearts on an altar. It is the steady erosion of everyoneâs savings to keep a fragile structure standing.
Under honest money, the natural state of a growing, inventive society is gentle deflation. Productivity makes goods cheaper over time. Your time savings compound. Planning becomes easier. The barista can plan a life. The machinist can raise a family. Technology turns scarcity into abundance and prices reflect it.
Inflation flips those signals. Prices rise even when you get more efficient. The map detaches from the territory. Debt becomes the organizing principle rather than service to real human needs. Those closest to the money spigot gain first. Those furthest away pay with diluted hours. That is the modern version of a tribute system.
The fear narrative is the glue. âIf we stop, everything collapses.â In reality what collapses is privilege. Projects that depend on cheap credit instead of real demand clear out. The real economy re-prices itself around service, savings, and productivity. People call that âpainâ because it reveals what never made sense to begin with.
So the parallel is simple. A priest class that must keep the ritual going. A population taught to fear the sun not rising. A steady stream of victims, now measured in lost purchasing power instead of lives. And an alternative that looks blasphemous to the temple only because it ends the ritual.
If you want fewer sacrifices, stop believing the story that requires them.
#economics #soundmoney
100% agree, Vitor. That is what it makes it one of the episodes of human history from Hernån Cortés, Alvarado, Bernal Gonzålez, etc. Two civilizations face to face, meeting for the first time in history.
This is bullshit. I like how you conveniently overlook the Spanish Inquisition. You know the way spaniards in a very civilized manner burned people alive? The whole my murder is less barbaric than your murder is completely ridiculous.
No, I didn't dismiss it. The meme is about the battle for tenochtitlan, not about everything the Spanish did in Latin America.
You said âheroicâ. This narrative that somehow spaniards were heroes because theyâre way of killing didnât involve ripping hearts out is trite and historically false. Laughable that they look down on âsavagesâ yet burned people alive for their beliefs.
Donât get me wrong I love spanish history though. Iâve to spain three times and my last name is Hernandez. Orellana for example was a true savage in the best way possible. A man who looked fate in the eye and said fuck you.
I said that for this specific battle mostly relatively to the other shit they did. I otherwise agree that they sucked.
Fair enough. The spaniards and aztecs both did evil shit is my point and too many narratives misleadingly give the spanish the moral high ground.
The false thing is your narrative. You are repeating the story told by the enemies of Spain; mainly England and France. What the Spaniards did was historic: discovery of a new continent, they empirically demonstrated that the earth is spherical, they connected the old world with the new world. Hence, the motto "Plus Ultra" (and beyond) of Spain.
What was false about what I said?
You do not mention the laws that protected the indigenous people nor the provisions of mestizaje established by Queen Isabel I of Castile. (Laws of the Indies and Laws of Burgos). Instead, you claim that Spain acted wrongly, demonstrating that you are influenced and biased by Anglo-Saxon propaganda that has shaped your perception through its audiovisual productions (Hollywood).
On the Spanish Inquisition: One of the worst things about Spain is bureaucracy, but thanks to it, we can review the data of the Spanish Inquisition.
The truth : Between 1540 and 1700, approximately 1,600 to 1,700 people were sentenced to death out of a total of 45,000 processed, which represents around 3%.
The negative image of the Spanish Inquisition (omitting and covering up the events of other European inquisitions) was spread by Romanticism from the second half of the 18th century.
Source: https://www.boe.es/biblioteca_juridica/anuarios_derecho/abrir_pdf.php?id=ANU-I-2025-10055900570
And I add: You only need to observe the empirical evidence on the quantity of native Americans and mestizos in the Hispanic territories in comparison with the Anglo-Saxons; it is not necessary to resort to statistics; it is enough to use observation and analyze phenotypes.
Laws of Burgos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_Burgos
Laws of the Indies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_the_Indies
New Laws: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Laws
Latin America? Tell me, tell me when the Roman Empire arrived in America? The great feat of the discovery of a new world (literally) was that of the Spanish Empire, that's why Spanish is spoken in America and they pray to a Christian God (among many other things). It is called Hispanic America, and they are Hispanic speakers.
Right, because Elizabethan anti-Catholic propaganda had nothing to do with how the "inquisition" narrative. They definitely weren't self projecting through the propaganda. The facts and archiological evidence confirm the Aztec's killed 1 in 5 children, Cortes only went back and burned the ships after witnessing it. Defending the innocent against those carrying out evil is not murder.
You canât burn someone alive and then look down on human sacrifice. There is narrative and then there is reality.
good point
The Aztecs treated surrounding tribes like cattle.
Using them for sacrifice.
The Spaniards did pretty much the same thing.
Just rape and killing instead of sacrifice
Just because the Anzacs were fucked up, don't justify the Spanish slaughtering entire civilisations, intentionally spreading disease, and raping countless children.
I'm sorry, they will no longer be able to sacrifice children to make it rain.
The Conquest of America was possible through evangelization. Pre-Hispanic peoples converted to gods who demanded the sacrifice of their children for a God who sacrificed his only son for us. Hispanic culture formed families, instead of a society that promoted infanticide.
I can't read all the comments, so sad, it was interesting.