Finance your investment and stop whining. Are you an entrepreneur or are you employed by us? I've gone for years without any income on some of my projects. Learn what future income means. You're going to be filthy rich.
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don’t make too many assumptions about any individual’s motivations/commitment or financial circumstances. no two people are ever the same
How many assumptions did I make?
I have no idea what this guy is talking about. I was stating facts and observations, not whining. I am planning on making damus revenue generating, but I am focused on making the app good first. I don’t want to sell something that is crap.
You're doing a great job, that's beside the point. What I'm triggered by is that you say you depend on zaps, and you say those are dwindling. While we're still in this fiat economy where money is cheap and you can get a loan to bridge this period. Get some financial advice and you'll be well off for building one of the best apps ever created.
#[4] is building something that lit a fire of inspiration in all of us and (IMHO) is amongst the primary reasons that nostr is gaining the traction that it is. If he needs zaps to support him in this beautiful moment in time, then let's support him with bitcoin and not suggest he take a fiat loan or go into debt. He's a driver of a community that we've all come to love and have gained enormous value from. He'll get to revenue and a long-term business model, but until then, let's show him how a community can support young, important projects.
I like your take, but hopefully there is room for someone who doesn't shower jb55 in likes and rose petals for everything he says. My response is genuine and from experience. I appreciate the man for the beauty that he is creating. I'll give the response he doesn't want to hear but has a place.
This is a good take. Tough love works wonders. Just don’t start tough love with an insult. Whining was not what he was doing and if anything, the guy just builds without sharing any of the actual tough shit that goes along with it. I know whining, this ain’t it. And by starting off with that, your overall point will be discounted, discarded and that’s unfortunate.
Good point, the wording could've been better.
I don’t ask for this. I’m simply trying to build the best nostr client while simultaneously trying to make it sustainable. I can’t control how people respond to my posts. I am not fishing for compliments, and my posts are not made to generate sympathy to get zaps. I am m posting what things cost to get an idea what it’s like to run the most popular nostr relay, and to point out that zaps can not sustain it at this number of users and zaps. This why I have been focusing on bringing damus to the masses so that we can get to the scale where it might be possible.
well said
Thank you for your honest response. Sorry for using the word whining. I hope you do understand that I am on your team, even though I'm not being nice to you. I know what it's like to start a business and live with the uncertainty of revenue and I hope you make the right financial decisions to finish your work. I will keep supporting devs, and you.
I never said I depend on zaps
But zaps help I’m sure.
I was making an observation that zaps is are not a reliable revenue source, at least at this user level. everyone kinda knows this by now.
can i help offest the burden with an adjacent relay on embassy not looking for zaps?
BAN HIM!
Haha 😆 JK.
This is NOSTR, decentralized and open to opinions and conversation. You’re doing a great job Will and your investment will pay you multiples. And perhaps Lau is trying to give constructive criticism.
All Damus users are receiving value for your efforts here Will
I believe we all have an obligation to support those efforts, within our means ⚡️
Yes, but he should not rely on that.
He stated facts/ observations re: his entrepreneurial efforts… It’s not an easy ( or free) journey
If you don’t want to support development, that’s on you and it’s your prerogative. No judgement.
But If that were my stance, I’d just remain quiet vs calling him a “complainer”. Because that’s just dick and incorrect
ios is a such a small market
Ain’t that right, David, since what had been the cause for two people if not the root causes for all this mess, when destroying for those doing their job, but hey, guess the ego and power getting hurt when incompetence becomes illuminated is not mentioned, and if only the two were not so different from themselves. Go swing an axe.
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He’s not whining, he’s stating a fact.
That's not what that emoji says. He has a great following and this statement will generate more sympathy in the form of zaps which he shouldn't rely on to begin with.
Didn’t know you were the emoji police 🧐
Build the next Damus and then offer advice on what he should or shouldn't do #[5]
That's a pretty lousy disqualification. I'll say what I have to say.