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Good thoughts, and I want to add and amplify them... As I understand that encouragement, to bless Israel is to go into Israel, which is not a place, but more like an adventure. You're blessed of you take the leap into the unknown. The universe seems to conspire to help you if you try. Israel is also Christ, which has similar meanings, if you really dig into it. To curse Israel is to curse the journey, the risk, the adventure of life - and since God made the world so you can do that stuff, then cursing Israel is cursing God. The nation state has nothing to do with it - and in fact, the concept of nation states didn't exist until thousands of years after the events in Genesis, so it is literally impossible for that section to be talking about the state which is now parasitically squatting on that name.

Good point about the nation-state matter. For hundreds of years after Abraham, it was a family. While his family became Israel after the Exodus and took on the organization of a nation, which God HAD promised to him, it doesn't then follow that what we see now is that nation.

Netanyahu himself isn't an ethnic Jew, a fact that was used against him several years ago in Israel by his political opponents and that he weakly disputed. What we're looking it is a political organization that wraps itself if this so-called Jewish promise, but that's just propaganda since not a one of them can prove they descend from Abraham.

Are there any ethnic Jews anywhere? Idk, never thought to ask that before... But if not, then perhaps the destruction of Judea by the romans was God's work. Purely hypothetical... But since we now have people twisting scripture for their selfish gain, essentially blaspheming, then it wouldn't surprise me if they were destroyed so that we could see the falseness of this group's claims.

Some quick duckducking about is telling me... Good luck getting to the bottom of that, lol. Oy vey.... A project.

I would be surprised to see this round of "Israel" destroyed as well. It hates God, Christ, and Christians allowing any of it in only to the extent that it can profit off of the tourist business and misplaced financial support.

God destroying Israel has been a theme in the Bible 🤔

Yes it has. Their arrogance in light of that fact is shocking.

*wouldn't

Marakesh 𓅦 6mo ago

The apostle Paul wrote "They are not all 'Israel' who are of/from Israel," and also that there is an "Israel of God". "Israel" today, in the sense that God recognizes, as I understand it, are those who are in covenant with Him, by sacrifice. This sacrifice was made by the Messiah, Jesus. The present-day secular State and even nation of Israel is not same entity as the ancient covenant people of God called Israel.

While the covenant view is disputed, I think it is consistent with what Paul is saying. Suggesting that the church is not Israel seems misguided by those who want to distance themselves from the historic church.

Problems initially sure but somehow he kept coming out the other side with more livestock, slaves and shekels. By the third time i started to think this was intentional

hmm. interesting point. I hadn't looked at it that way.

And the pharoah or king everytime looked at Abraham like dude WTF?! Why is an angel of God the one to warn me?

right? Abraham was probably one of the best men around in his day, but he did some sketchy stuff with his beautiful sister-wife.

Yeah... best not to try and draw that family tree.

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Alabama is obviously named based on a mispronunciation of Abraham