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Terms and conditions say:

"3. Legal Compliance and Prohibited Items

Users are solely responsible for ensuring that any products they list, sell, or purchase comply with all applicable laws and regulations.

Prohibited items include:

Illegal drugs, controlled substances, and associated paraphernalia

Firearms, weapons, and items designed to cause harm

Explicit adult or NSFW content and services

Counterfeit, stolen, or fraudulently obtained goods"

I don't understand them. Are users solely responsible? If so, how come there are prohibited items? Seems like an either or situation.

Matt 4d ago

People are responsible for their listings amd should be mindful of applicable laws in their territories.

Plebian.Market URL operates from the UK and will not display items that are illegal here. Respect the terms of someone else's server or use your own. Self hostable instances will be available later

Of course, but sadly, the overlords also make responsible anyone that can prevent what they deem illegal if they fail to prevent it.

Terms and conditions say:

"6. Moderation and Administrative Rights

The owners and administrators reserve the right to remove, mute, or ban any user or listing that breaches these Terms, applicable law, or community standards."

This conveys the idea that there are owners and admins of the platform that may remove items from listings . If so they will likely be held responsible by our overlords for actions of the users. 🚨

#SamouraiWallet vibes

The overlords will always hold website hosts responsible for content they display

Yep. That sucks.

We have to abide by UK laws... nostr doesn't suddenly bypass the laws of any country unfortunately... it's good but not that good

Even though we never touch the money (ever, it is truly decentralised and p2p) we would still be held responsible... so yeah there's a zero tolerance policy, instant ban and removal

Technically we can delete items from our own relay but not from other relays

If you want to buy/sell that stuff and are in a country where it is legal then you can take the code and install it on your own website or node

Plebeian Market is not a platform in the traditional sense... it's just one instance of a website using the Plebeian open source solution and we're dedicated to bitcoin and nostr maxis

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That makes sense.

Multiple markets run by multiple operators.

Yours may be in compliance to mitigate risks.

While some shadowy market runners can do their stuff out of compliance forking your software.

Your defense would be: we cannot avoid people coyping our code and running it in their own instances.

If that's the strategy, I'd be very clear about what you run and what you don't run to avoid confusions. Governments folks aren't the sharpest people.

aljaz 4d ago

let a thousand gamma markets bloom! May 2026 be the year of private markets 🎉

Zaza 4d ago

Legend 💥

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Pete Winn 🔆 4d ago

Awesome 😎

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Matt 4d ago

This is really cool, I want to look at how I can expand out the market place listings on my site. At the moment it's just a simple 'contact seller' but presumably you've got options in the NIP for things like instantly deliverable digital products etc?

Yes Matt there's a full multi-vendor shopping cart and yes you can sell digital products too

Eventually (2 weeks) we'll supply an installation guide so that people can create their own marketplaces... all will be totally interoperable... so you can show other peoples products on your site if you so wished AND anyone can show your products on their website

It's going to be very cool

DarthCoin ₿⚡️ 4d ago

Captain Anarchy aka Major Love 4d ago

Darthcoin a fed ?!? 😉

Captain Anarchy aka Major Love 4d ago

He a fuckin agent 😂🤷‍♂️

Boring but I just have to say this for the record... no you can not suddenly sell drugs, guns, or any NSFW stuff on Plebeian Market... it has to abide by the laws of the UK

If you live in a country where you are legal to sell that kind of thing then setup your own instance of Plebeian app... we'll be providing an installation guide soon

In all honesty though the dark market should stay in the dark net imo... if it works don't fix it... nostr isn't an improvement it's very clear net

We've got a very strict policy on PM... instant permanent ban and removal

DarthCoin ₿⚡️ 4d ago

>it has to abide by the laws of the UK

LOL never thought you are such obedient citizens.

I wonder if the same thing said Satoshi before creating Bitcoin.

I’ve chosen to stay and fight for my country peacefully like a grown up

And thanks to Satoshi I’m building an open source solution that will enable self sovereign communities to require little from government… lessen the burden and so smaller government and less tax

So I’m going to do the smart thing and not poke the bear 👍

Ben Weeks ⚡ 4d ago

Awesome! Nice work. Looking forward to using it more and being able to do all my Christmas shopping on it this year :-)

It's my new years resolution to make that possible... we got 11 months... we can do it 😉 🚀

Ben Weeks ⚡ 4d ago

Looking forward to that :-)

So great. 2 questions: do y'all know of any existing projects to embed these on an existing site? Can I edit the v4v part to go to multiple vendors? For example 1% to my meetup, 1% to y'all, 1% to amethyst, etc.

I don't understand the first question fully; a website than can embed nip99 or a website that displays your plebeian shop?

yes you can add as many npubs to your v4v, each with a custom split 🦾

The first question. I'm looking for any other project or code base that is embedding nip 99 listings outside of the platforms listed here. I mean I guess I could probably just use the assets in your code base, would need to review.

Shopstr, conduit, my old build https://cypher.space supports the kind I think a couple social clients are also looking at it.

You can dirty iframe it to some extent, but the checkout process either is handled at the marketplace or on your side by the embedded code which at this point does not exist. But a nice widget that displays your kind 30402 events by npub is just one prompt away 😆.

That's what I'm looking for. Cuz I sell raw milk at our meetup and just use the marketplaces as an easy creation mechanism, then my customers zap and I know how much to bring. Plus I'm hoping to help a bit with the btcpay integration so we can have built in inventory management.

Cypher space is great I love it, customers don't even need nostr just a zapping wallet

Nostr inventory combined with btc pay server would be amazing

I guess also there is a second question, which I think I know the answer to. Is it possible to change the zap split based on the client the sale is made in? For example if I make a sale on your site, you get 5%, but if it happens on amethyst, you get 1% and they get 4%?

I haven't dug into the spec yet so I'm unsure if the zap split is coupled to the listing or not.

the split is only generated by this client at the checkout unfortunately so if an item sells anywhere else it would depending in setting up a split on their side... Same as shipping doesn't follow across platforms (atm?)

Awesome. Thank you.

Are you using the milk market ?

Dunno, I posted a marketplace event for milk, but I don't know if they're pulling over that event.

I don’t think so there is a dedicated one for milk https://milk.market

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Good question ser... I don't know about embedding it on any site... maybe as nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7ur4wfcxcetjv4kxz7fwvdhk6qg5waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t0qqsvswpas8wjgsr8gkmggzd7grt8y8pszq55vsr8lnzs5fwalyfe2jg4yre37 has suggested an iframe but the checkout might cause issues... But a widget?! thats a great idea

Alternatively you can run your own instance of the plebeian app but that might be overkill

Regarding the v4v... absolutely yes... it's up to the seller how they want to share whatever % of the sale and with any npub that has a working wallet 👍

I've just seen nostr:nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7ct5d3shxtnwdaehgu3wd3skuep0qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uqzphn4avwh5e38spagmlc0kvmulnccnelf479tvg5ldz8kv3cscvq5svaye4 's response... I should've just copy pasta that 😂

hope that helps

DJ Valerie B LOVE🩷 4d ago

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captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 4d ago

Pleb is best !!!

captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 4d ago

your domain n service is so far well maintained small biz / virtual garage sale should use it

in case of any reg. trouble in future someone can deploy the code in another domain as needed.

cross border shipping is most expensive hardest part - people should lock items for small refundable payment n exchange good in physical meeting for example

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Yes.... plebeian market is just a single "instance" of the plebeian app... eventually we will release an installation guide so that anyone with a vps server can install it on their own website

International shipping is always a challenge... nothing we can really do bout that apart from hook into some of the global delivery companies to make it easier for people to arrange that

The solution is ultimately designed to build and support local circular economic communities 👍

yo ⚔ 🏴‍☠️⊹ 4d ago

Anon markets here we come!

Bfgreen 4d ago

Looks like previous nostr:nprofile1qyw8wumn8ghj7cmgwf5hxarsd9kxctnwdaehgu339e3k7mf0qys8wumn8ghj7mrfvfex2un9d3shjtnpv9ex7mnfw4kkj6fwvdhk6tcqyr05wm90fzyt7hvec6n3p6n2a9pa8e5n62wdcawyalculd35swdmsv6agje store fronts have been wiped clean. Not a big deal, just checking in to see if that is expected behavior?

yup... the previous storefronts were all nip15 so each merchant needs to login and hit the migrate button for each product... the migration tool recreates the nip15 product as a nip99 one and it will show in their shop... the original nip15 product is left in tact and still exists in whatever markets show nip15 products... hope that helps 👍

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AU9913 3d ago

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Saberhagen The Nameless 2d ago

Not that I know of 🤔

AU9913 2d ago

I don't have the time bc I have 5 other dev projects I'm working on plus harrassing my county govt, but I could definitely advise someone who wants to vibe code this.

Chiefmonkey 2d ago

" have 5 other dev projects I'm working on plus harrassing my county govt"... 🤣 beautiful... 🫡

AU9913 1d ago

5 reports to the state AG in 2026 alone

Chiefmonkey 2d ago

I'm not aware of anything but I'd be interested in hearing about any movement here

hasky 3d ago

Plebeian market maybe my go to , I like to sell my old stuff ..

hasky 3d ago

Awesome

More stuff to sell then 😍

Justin Nakamoto-San ☑️ 3d ago

Can it be shut down

The website Plebeian Market is just one instance of the Plebeian solution/app… all shops and products are under the ownership and control of the users and exist on nostr relays

If PM was down, go use any nip-99 interoperable marketplace

Protocols > Platforms

Samuel Manzanera 3d ago

Awesome ! You should offer a saas for shops and online vendors without having infra knowledge to spin an instance.

Yeah nice idea Samuel thank you... it's a possibility...

Initially we will be creating instructions so that anyone with a standard VPS server can connect to it through a terminal and run a single line of code to install an instance 👍

Samuel Manzanera 3d ago

Makes sense.

In the meantime if you want we can collaborate on that to see how we can structure that — I’m leading a biz in Bitcoin product engineering FWIW;)

Kontext 3d ago

PoW! Well done 💪

PS. The listings that were published on the old standard are now gone for good, I understand? We have to make new ones from scratch?