Your pedantry doesn't factor that the term "Hispanic" refers to the race of people indigenous to America that mixed with the European Spanish. And "white" refers to a majority genetic western European.
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That is not what the term means nor is it how it's used. There are hispanic people of every race and every combination of races. It's categorically different from race.
I understand that's how you are using it. Ever wonder how literally every government form and people all over use Hispanic to refer to a race? It's not that they are all using language incorrectly. Language is a map of meaning and what they mean is how I described above. You are a very bad pedant.
Government forms do not use "Hispanic" as a race category. It is a separate ethnicity category.
You select your race and then indicate if you are also Hispanic.
Here is a link to the US Census description, for your edification:
You are correct about your main point. But incorrect, I suspect, about your statement that the majority of Hispanics in the US are white. Don't know what relevance you ascribe to that though.
No need to suspect anything. We have loads of data on this.
https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2021/11/04/measuring-the-racial-identity-of-latinos/
That's the problem with the way the US does race and ethnicity statistics. Self-reporting.
Apparently the moment they start to be born in the US, they turn white xD
They might be white and something else. Before the 70's there was no differentiation for Hispanics, so it might be more accurate to say that they all turned Hispanic in the 70's.
This is the same classification error that occurs when describing a tomato as a fruit. By this logic Latin origin individuals would be classified as native Americans. To everyone with average IQ, this is a misclassification of their race. Therefore the delineation between race and ethnicity is a difference without distinction. Most Latino individuals (I have spoken to) when trying to answer correctly on these forms mark other then Hispanic.
Either way this is beside the point to the original post which refers to Hispanics as a race because of course speaking Spanish ISN'T and ethnicity anyway. I speak Spanish but I would never classify myself as if my ethnicity had anything to do with a language I speak.
Tomatoes are fruits and Hispanic isn't a race.
Are you just going to refuse to admit error? If so, we can just stop talking. You submitted as evidence in your favor that government forms list Hispanic as a race and then you moved the goal posts when that proved to be wrong.
What's the actual evidence for your claim?
https://apnews.com/article/race-ethnicity-census-bureau-hispanics-0b2c325b683efd95e8e8e24235654abd
I didn't move the Goalposts, the government did and recently. Don't do this revisionist bullshit as if I wasn't alive before 1997. The language around this "Spanish speaking is an entire ethnicity" is a recent change. Either way I don't care about this. You can walk around with this Spanish is an identity bullshit and call Mexicans native Americans all you want. Have fun with that.
Some Mexicans are Native Americans, some are white, and many are mixed race.
What you linked to demonstrates the opposite of your point.
"Under the revisions, questions about race and ethnicity that previously were asked separately on forms will be combined into a single question."
This has not yet happened. The norm has been and continues to be asking these things separately. I don't know what you think you remember from the '90s, but you're remembering it wrong.
You seem very triggered by an accurate description of how words are used. Or, perhaps it's just being wrong that you can't handle. Either way, you should probably reflect on it a bit.
It changed in 1997, which I said. The Spanish areEuropeanss and therefore Hispanic right? But I guess the Portuguese are not Hispanic? Yet still Europeans? How about Brazilians? Not Hispanic? The asininity is my point Hispanic is a term used by MOST PEOPLE to refer to Latinos which are those of mostly South American decent.
Hispanic was part of a gamut of different races included in the form previously. Liberal morons made an arbitrary distinction between Spanish speaking countries and peoples and race. This is not something I am wrong about. Just think logically, what distinction is a spoken language making in reference to "Ethnicity?" How many countries speak Russian or French who could not be more opposed to the cultures of both of those countries respectively. Not to mention the Hispanic moniker really having no ties to the culture of Spain. At best this distinction is very arbitrary and at worst is utterly confusing.
Ethnic variables rely on a multitude of factors and selecting a single one would be as ridiculous as saying The French and Vietnamese are the same ethnic group because they both eat baguettes. The sole factor of "Speaks Spanish" is just as arbitrary and silly.
Overall it stands to reason that the way most people use Hispanic, barring use as an arbitrary ethnic class, is shorthand for Natitive South American. Ask around, see what your fellow man thinks.
"Hispanic was part of a gamut of different races included in the form previously."
Citation required. The article you shared before stated the opposite.
This is the crux of the disagreement so why not just show me that you're right?
I'll do most of the work for you and share a link to the 1990 census form:
Yes, disregard my entire argumentation for the way government forms are organized. Correct. I can't find what I remembered in the 90's. The article however refers to prior to 97 the single question was two SEPARATE forms. Reread the article. Regardless the disaggregation of grouped identities provides clarity whereas the aggregation of "People who speak Spanish" does not. Pedantry is about improving clarity. Siding with the expert class about arbitrary distinctions is being annoying.
To be succinct my mistake was that in reading the separate forms 25 years ago the government MUST have been redundant when using ethnicity and race interchangeably because no sane person would delineate "Speaks Spanish" as it's own separate true/false ethnic purity test for clarity. I assumed they meant race because the other option is asinine.