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I guess this is the slight point where we disagree. Processed sugar is different than natural sugar eating 20g carbs or syagr from a blueberry or honey much different than even cane sugar based coke which is refined sugar not the right balance of carbs for our liver or natural counterbalance. If you are otherwise healthy and especially if an athlete l, excercise a lot or live in a tropical climate with fresh fruits in season nothing wrong with that. But I do agree keto carnivore is the optimal way for humans to thrive especially in cooler climates with less sun and especially if you have some type of metabolic and/or inflammatory condition which most Americans do anyway. Your example of the Egyptians is noted but that’s more grains not the sugar from fruit. Grains are an anti nutrient which not only spikes blood sugar but depletes our micronutrient absorption hard to digest and our guts have not evolved to process them. We are not fermenters and have a small colon agreed there. I would say in my research tho to simplify it’s more about the fat you are eating. Solve that, remove processed seed oils and get some sun and excercise and nothing wrong with some fruit

beejay 1y ago

Unless you're the 1% of the western population he's talking about:

Bodies don't know the difference between processed sugar and "natural sugar" because sugar is sugar.

Let me repeat: Sugar is sugar.

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Troy 1y ago

Except my body disagrees.

beejay 1y ago

Goody for you

Troy 1y ago

It's good for science too. Observation is key.

Eric Brown 1y ago

That’s just not scientifically correct. High fructose corn syrup is processed very differently than fructose from an orange. Yes all the same fructose molecules but it’s about balance which what it comes with, glucose to fructose ratio, etc Of course most Americans around 90% are metabolically unhealthy through mitochondrial dysfunction and consuming processed fat like seed oils so are not insulin sensitive thus cannot process sugar well but in an otherwise healthy human it’s not the sugar killing us it’s the bad fat. Sugar just reveals your problems since most people have screwed up their metabolism so bad they cannot process. You need to take the 4-5 years to cleanse your body of the high omega 6 to omega 3 ratio and low steric acid, etc you have and recalibrate your mitochondria

BTC_P2P 1y ago

Junkies always have long nonsensical rationalizations about why their drug use isn’t bad and in fact is okay. Classic junkie behavior here.

beejay 1y ago

Blocked/muted a few sugar junkies who keep telling me I should be eating fruit lol

BTC_P2P 1y ago

Oh yeah I call them the “saladinos”. They’re pretty delusional.

You know what they say: an apple a day keeps the diabetes in play.

beejay 1y ago

Well, again, there are only a few people who can get by being sugar-burners without consequences to health (I refer to them here as the 1%). The rest of the Western population has no business eating sugar other than in real moderation (almost no one in modern times practices real moderation, i.e., one piece of cake each year on your birthday).

BTC_P2P 1y ago

I am one of those people. But I choose not to take the weaklings route of “eating whatever I want” just bc I can. Discipline and accepting reality is much more important to me.

beejay 1y ago

And I'm unfortunately not. But I learned better.

beejay 1y ago

Also, you and I know when we refer to sugar it's the umbrella term that includes starch from vegetables & grains as well. These ding-dongs like to try to differentiate, when the body treats it all the same. My body doesn't know a whole grain bagel from a Snicker's bar from a potato from a pineapple. Unless you're some type of indigenous human on another part of the equator in a rustic area, that is.

This is all thanks to the modern bullshit paradigm / pyramid of the last 40-50 years, scarcely anyone alive knows any different. These people would prefer to think just because they got away scot-free with it, everyone else should, too. It only enables people into being victims of addiction to UPF & unnecessary "whole" foods masquerading as healthy for people who shouldn't have them (insulin resistant/TOFI, overweight, obese, or what-have-you)

Dissident Sound 1y ago

sugar is sugar but also ...

calorie is a calorie

YES I SAID IT ! ! !

beejay 1y ago

If you're a sugar-burner, cool. I don't care about your replies to this, stay a sugar-burner. Move on. This thread isn't for you.